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Ohio Sheriff offering free CC training to school staff

Postby M-Quigley » Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:20 am

http://www.whio.com/news/national/ohio- ... sM1E5MJ2M/

He also advocates stopping an automatic leave the school response to a fire alarm merely being pulled by someone.
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Re: Ohio Sheriff offering free CC training to school staff

Postby WhyNot » Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:18 am

I think I will contact our local Sheriff and suggest same. Shucks I'm even willing to volunteer / help instruct

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Re: Ohio Sheriff offering free CC training to school staff

Postby M-Quigley » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:46 am

But the school teachers union and left wing politicians all say that teachers don't want to be armed and be able to defend themselves and their students in the event of a school schooting. No one's going to sign up for this. School staff doesn't want what the Sheriff is peddling, they want gun control! Oh wait,

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/e ... 354298002/

So, at 12:55 p.m. on Sunday, Jones pulled off to the side of the road and sent a tweet, offering free concealed carry training to teachers in Butler County. Tuesday morning, he cut off the signups at 300. Classes are expected to start as soon as next week.


From what I could gather listening to him on WLW, the 300 is only the first round. He hopes to be able at a later date to help out the hundreds more who weren't part of the first 300.

Ohio law is strict on guns in school zones. Law enforcement officers may carry weapons, but aside from that, it requires written authorization from a district’s school board for any other person to carry a gun.

So, Jones’ class is just a first step. But for any school board that doesn’t take the second step and approve teachers to carry guns, Jones thinks voters should boot the board members out of office.

“Fire them,” he said.

We have reached our limit right now, we've cut it at 300 requests. We will be in contact soon about classes and times. Thank You!
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Re: Ohio Sheriff offering free CC training to school staff

Postby Brian D. » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:22 pm

Our dearly departed friend "Tweed Ring" told me a story about Jones back when he was a deputy, not yet elected sheriff, that further confirmed what a stand up law and order type Jones is. He says what he means, without worrying if it will estrange some voters.

That tends to be the exception to the norm among elected officials.
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Re: Ohio Sheriff offering free CC training to school staff

Postby Brian D. » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:30 pm

Sheriff Jones caused a few local liberal heads to explode last year, at least twice. Once was because he refuses to allow his deputies to carry narcan. The other time was when he began to allow his non-LE staff with valid CHLs to carry in the building.

For years he had some of his deputies get the needed federal certification to arrest and detain illegal immigrants when they were encountered. The Obama administration forced an end to that, unfortunately.
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Re: Ohio Sheriff offering free CC training to school staff

Postby Face » Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:21 pm

from WHIZ https://www.whiznews.com/2018/02/area-s ... f-members/

An area school district is going to take security to a new level. The Daily Jeffersonian is reporting Tuesday that members of the East Guernsey Local School Board of Education unanimously adopted a resolution authorizing the arming of some members of the staff. The Jeffersonian says the board agreed to provide “written authorization for certain persons designated by the superintendent to convey deadly weapons or dangerous ordinance in a school safety zone or to possess a deadly weapon or dangerous ordinance in a school safety zone of the East Guernsey Local School District.” The newspaper reports in order to be an armed staff member that person must be permitted under Ohio law to carry a concealed handgun.
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Re: Ohio Sheriff offering free CC training to school staff

Postby 747tech » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:20 am

I want to see armed folks in schools for sure but I fail to understand why at least there aren’t metal detectors at school entrances to stop weapons from coming in. I know there are always folks who say a shooter if determined can get past them but if you look at airports the TSA confiscates guns all the time.
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Re: Ohio Sheriff offering free CC training to school staff

Postby JediSkipdogg » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:22 am

747tech wrote:I want to see armed folks in schools for sure but I fail to understand why at least there aren’t metal detectors at school entrances to stop weapons from coming in. I know there are always folks who say a shooter if determined can get past them but if you look at airports the TSA confiscates guns all the time.


And the airport also misses a lot. Also, with kids and their clothing, metal detectors are generally a pain and require schools to open their doors earlier meaning staff working longer. In 2013 a student in an Atlanta school noticed metal detectors were down one day and so the next day he brought a firearm to school and shot another student in the neck. They go down and repairs are not instant. In 2005 a student in a Minnesota school shot the guard manning the metal detectors and then walked right in and fatally shot 7 more people.

Metal detectors are a knee jerk reaction with no real solution. They simply increase the chances of locating a weapon. And would they be operational 100% of the time? Generally they are only operational during the school day for students. So what about that 7pm concert? Or 4 pm when the school is still open but nobody is manning them? Just bring the weapon inside to store and access the next day.
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Re: Ohio Sheriff offering free CC training to school staff

Postby rouger10 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:04 am

I sent Sherriff Jones a thank you note. I wish there were more sheriffs like him in Ohio and throughout the country.

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Re: Ohio Sheriff offering free CC training to school staff

Postby willbird » Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:36 am

747tech wrote:I want to see armed folks in schools for sure but I fail to understand why at least there aren’t metal detectors at school entrances to stop weapons from coming in. I know there are always folks who say a shooter if determined can get past them but if you look at airports the TSA confiscates guns all the time.


My metal toed boots set off the metal detectors at the courthouse. I got so tired of the %^$# associated with that that I just mail my real estate taxes in now.

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Postby schmieg » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:06 pm

willbird wrote:
747tech wrote:I want to see armed folks in schools for sure but I fail to understand why at least there aren’t metal detectors at school entrances to stop weapons from coming in. I know there are always folks who say a shooter if determined can get past them but if you look at airports the TSA confiscates guns all the time.


My metal toed boots set off the metal detectors at the courthouse. I got so tired of the %^$# associated with that that I just mail my real estate taxes in now.

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Re: Ohio Sheriff offering free CC training to school staff

Postby DOA33 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:21 pm

JediSkipdogg wrote:
747tech wrote:I want to see armed folks in schools for sure but I fail to understand why at least there aren’t metal detectors at school entrances to stop weapons from coming in. I know there are always folks who say a shooter if determined can get past them but if you look at airports the TSA confiscates guns all the time.


And the airport also misses a lot. Also, with kids and their clothing, metal detectors are generally a pain and require schools to open their doors earlier meaning staff working longer. In 2013 a student in an Atlanta school noticed metal detectors were down one day and so the next day he brought a firearm to school and shot another student in the neck. They go down and repairs are not instant. In 2005 a student in a Minnesota school shot the guard manning the metal detectors and then walked right in and fatally shot 7 more people.

Metal detectors are a knee jerk reaction with no real solution. They simply increase the chances of locating a weapon. And would they be operational 100% of the time? Generally they are only operational during the school day for students. So what about that 7pm concert? Or 4 pm when the school is still open but nobody is manning them? Just bring the weapon inside to store and access the next day.


Don't forget the backup it can cause. Why try to get in when everyone is still outside trying to get through the detectors. When I went to HS in Piqua, they had us use a badge to open the outside doors to get in but it was also used to take attendance. Meaning each child had to wait their turn to scan and when they had only 2 scanners one on each side. It took upwards of 20-30 mins to get in if you was in the back of the line.
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