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MyWifeSaidYes wrote:"Forthwith"?

Is that longer or shorter than "promptly"?

RFN, same as cc notification at LEO traffic stop.

WY_Not wrote:So... when things get ugly and we all "lose" all of our firearms in a tragic boating accident we'll get in trouble for not reporting it.

It could cause you to do a lot of tap dancing when your gun is recovered in a fatal shooting that probably drug-related.

Werz wrote:

WY_Not wrote:So... when things get ugly and we all "lose" all of our firearms in a tragic boating accident we'll get in trouble for not reporting it.

It could cause you to do a lot of tap dancing when your gun is recovered in a fatal shooting that probably drug-related.

Dang drug dealer has a hobby of scuba diving!

Werz wrote:

WY_Not wrote:So... when things get ugly and we all "lose" all of our firearms in a tragic boating accident we'll get in trouble for not reporting it.

It could cause you to do a lot of tap dancing when your gun is recovered in a fatal shooting that probably drug-related.

Yeah, about that: Decades ago I swapped my brother a Browning Hi Power for a S&W Model 29. When he got divorced he let his ex keep the Hi Power. That gun was stolen from her by my niece's boyfriend, although nobody noticed at the time. Subsequently he indeed used the BHP in a murder. Only AFTER the trial, before sentencing (during which time the killer WASN'T locked up by the way) did the cops there contact me about being the original owner, through the Form 4473. All I could do was confirm that yeah, I'd bought it in 1985 or whatever, and traded it to my brother.

Nothing more came of it, far as I know. The whole thing got me curious so a few weeks later I made contact with the detective who'd called me. He wouldn't tell me a darn thing, other than there was no likelihood of that gun coming back into my possession. (To be honest I truly believe he took it home himself, I later learned he had a habit of that.)

Brian D. wrote:Nothing more came of it, far as I know. The whole thing got me curious so a few weeks later I made contact with the detective who'd called me. He wouldn't tell me a darn thing, other than there was no likelihood of that gun coming back into my possession. (To be honest I truly believe he took it home himself, I later learned he had a habit of that.)

Just curious - why would it [come back to you]? You admitted that it was no longer yours.

Hey DJ, it didn't hurt to "naively" ask, you know?

It struck me odd the trace of the gun didn't take place until the trial was in the sentencing stage. During which time, the convicted killer was OUT ON HIS OWN RECOGNIZANCE.

Great legal system we got going ain't it?

Brian D. wrote:Hey DJ, it didn't hurt to "naively" ask, you know?

It struck me odd the trace of the gun didn't take place until the trial was in the sentencing stage. During which time, the convicted killer was OUT ON HIS OWN RECOGNIZANCE.

Great legal system we got going ain't it?

Speed plays a huge factor. I think for us an etrace takes a good 2-3 weeks if not longer. I'm not sure if FFLs have a required time to respond but think about it in the old paper world. ATF has a serial number, they have to call the manufacturer. The manufacturer has to search their records and find their distributor. Then the ATF has to contact the distributor whom has to go through their records and find the dealer they sold it to to. The dealer then has to go through their records and find whom they sold it to. And I'm sure some of those steps probably don't place a high priority on calling the ATF back and may wait a few days.

Luckily the last shooting we had the shooter told us who he bought it from and gave us his contact info (private party sale.) The seller was super cooperative and remembered the sale and thought nothing odd with selling to this guy.

Werz wrote:

WY_Not wrote:So... when things get ugly and we all "lose" all of our firearms in a tragic boating accident we'll get in trouble for not reporting it.

It could cause you to do a lot of tap dancing when your gun is recovered in a fatal shooting that probably drug-related.

They would have no clue if you sold it, lost it, or it was stolen . I was question on a street sweeper I bought new by the Akron homicide unit. A gun can change hands a lot before it is used illegally. The officer that called me even said the same thing.

The reason I ask is that I loaned a gun to a friend and he has relocated without letting me know where he went. So now I am SOL.

MacDonald wrote:The reason I ask is that I loaned a gun to a friend and he has relocated without letting me know where he went. So now I am SOL.

Is this a theft, and are you required to report it ?? Seems to me it's unquestionably a theft, thus triggering your duty to report its loss.

Unless he's off the grid, it's fairly easy to find folks these days, so if you report it, you might even do a little sleuthing before you report it. If you find him, the LEO might just go ahead and go after him if they know they don't have to do much work for an easy closure, and you might get your piece back.