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HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby troy bilt » Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:38 pm

Is it April 1st already? Removal or Duty to Inform would be great.

https://www.legislature.ohio.gov/legisl ... 132-HB-142
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby djmac1964 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:06 pm

WKYC Channel 3 Cleveland posted this up on their Facebook page, the comments are unreal.
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby djmac1964 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:11 pm

troy bilt wrote:Is it April 1st already? Removal or Duty to Inform would be great.

https://www.legislature.ohio.gov/legisl ... 132-HB-142


You can thank a group of OFCC volunteers, who spent two days meeting with our representatives at the state house, for getting this introduced.
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby troy bilt » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:54 pm

djmac1964 wrote:
troy bilt wrote:Is it April 1st already? Removal or Duty to Inform would be great.

https://www.legislature.ohio.gov/legisl ... 132-HB-142


You can thank a group of OFCC volunteers, who spent two days meeting with our representatives at the state house, for getting this introduced.


I would love to thank them. I would also love to join them. Somehow I missed the invite. Thats probably my fault I check this site often but mostly/only the Forums page.
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby scottb » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:41 am

djmac1964 wrote:WKYC Channel 3 Cleveland posted this up on their Facebook page, the comments are unreal.


Here's a link if interested
https://www.facebook.com/WKYC.Channel3/posts/10155293630509274
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby Chuck » Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:59 am

Now we're getting somewhere!
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby qmti » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:27 am

I support the HB142. I feel the present law is entrapment for law abiding carriers. Every LE has a different opinion on how fast you need to notify them that you are carrying and this is the problem. And during a traffic stop or accident every officer on site has to be notified that you are carrying that you come in contact with. Or any interaction with LE weather official or any casual (which the officer could deem to be official). I have no problem informing a LE even if HB142 is passed. There will always be supporters and opponents to every issue out there. I have sent an email to my legislator to support this bill.
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby pirateguy191 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:34 am

scottb wrote:
djmac1964 wrote:WKYC Channel 3 Cleveland posted this up on their Facebook page, the comments are unreal.


Here's a link if interested
https://www.facebook.com/WKYC.Channel3/posts/10155293630509274


Someone's really smart right here:

It's a 5th amendment issue also. Ohio law states I have to have my CHL and another form of state ID when I'm carrying concealed. State law also states I have to inform police when stopped for law enforcement purposes when I'm carrying.

What happens if I forget my physical license and get pulled over while carrying? State law saws I must give up my right to not self incriminate.
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby gilly32 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:02 am

djmac1964 wrote:WKYC Channel 3 Cleveland posted this up on their Facebook page, the comments are unreal.



It really is amazing how uninformed people are on this type of issue.
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby WestonDon » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:49 pm

gilly32 wrote:
djmac1964 wrote:WKYC Channel 3 Cleveland posted this up on their Facebook page, the comments are unreal.



It really is amazing how uninformed people are on this type of issue.


It certainly is. Especially so since some of those people claim to be concealed carriers.

Sadly I have gotten some mighty strange looks from some of the people I have mentioned this to personally. Like maybe I had a horn growing out of my forehead or something. Some of them even have a CHL.

I think this bill is in for a rough ride.
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby curmudgeon3 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:49 pm

We're going up against the OSHP, it won't be easy for the Governor to sign the bill if it reaches him.
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby JediSkipdogg » Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:33 am

curmudgeon3 wrote:We're going up against the OSHP, it won't be easy for the Governor to sign the bill if it reaches him.


Facts and stories sod abuse are hard to beat. Simply show cases where people forgot to notify answer arrested and then ask if they truly should have been arrested and what public good did it accomplish? I think this can easily pass everyone as ling as it isn't thrown in with other bills and then amended at that last minute to be stupid.
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby catfish86 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:16 am

I have several police for tax clients. I am pretty much told they don't fear the concealed carrier, its the other guys with guns they are worried about.

Not to mention, they always know about the concealed carry license and assume I am armed. I have had more than one officer tell me, "do you have something you have to tell me"...basically they don't want to arrest somebody for something silly.
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby JustaShooter » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:47 am

catfish86 wrote:I have several police for tax clients. I am pretty much told they don't fear the concealed carrier, its the other guys with guns they are worried about.


Unfortunately, their leadership and union organizations are left-leaning, generally anti-gun / anti-concealed carry, and make their presence known at the statehouse.
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby sd790 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:34 pm

JustaShooter wrote:
catfish86 wrote:I have several police for tax clients. I am pretty much told they don't fear the concealed carrier, its the other guys with guns they are worried about.


Unfortunately, their leadership and union organizations are left-leaning, generally anti-gun / anti-concealed carry, and make their presence known at the statehouse.


And we are right-leaning, pro-gun / pro-concealed carry, and make our presence known at the statehouse.
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