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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby MacDonald » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:08 pm

When I worked at Kroger (11/15 - 03/17) it was 3rd shift and I would frequently see LEO in the store getting munchines (I doubt they were stoned, but who knows?). One night, I asked an officer about duty to inform, and if I needed to interrupt the police if I was stopped for a LE purpose (he was a local cop in Lebanon). He advised that it would probably go better for me if I informed after the LEO finished introduction rather than interrupt him/her. I have never been pulled over while carrying, and would be nervous, I would thin, to say the least.

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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby Brian D. » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:30 pm

Don't go past "Hello" without notifying. I had car trouble on I-75 over the weekend and a nice OSHP officer walked up to my passenger window about 15 minutes later. He had run my plates and already knew, but I'm not pushing the "promptly" envelope.
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby docachna » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:58 pm

MacDonald wrote:When I worked at Kroger (11/15 - 03/17) it was 3rd shift and I would frequently see LEO in the store getting munchines (I doubt they were stoned, but who knows?). One night, I asked an officer about duty to inform, and if I needed to interrupt the police if I was stopped for a LE purpose (he was a local cop in Lebanon). He advised that it would probably go better for me if I informed after the LEO finished introduction rather than interrupt him/her. I have never been pulled over while carrying, and would be nervous, I would thin, to say the least.

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It's the reason I created and carried a written notification card when I still lived in Ahia. Let them say what they want when they approach (most likely the first words will be "license & registration") - then hand that to them and tell say "yep, I'll get you those, but before I do, here's the notification I'm required to give you." Then I wouldn't take my hands off the steering wheel until they tell you AGAIN to get your DL and registration.

And, oh yes - an extra copy of that card for court - just in case yours mysteriously disappears from the property room. The card simply tracks the language of the statute, and informs them of precisely what the statute requires you to inform them. Some may not like to do that. YMMV.
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby Chuck » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:12 am

rickt wrote:While the House has passed three gun related bills so far, the Senate seems remarkably uninterested in dealing with the subject. There have been almost no hearings on any gun related bills so far this session.


Things slow down during the holiday season, unless it’s the lame duck.
And frankly, I’m fine with that, having used all my days off work this year.
We are working with leadership, exploring the use of one of these bills as a means of getting a total repeal.
That would be the easiest way to make repeal happen.

I want this time to drum up support, before the hearings start
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby rickt » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:21 pm

So no sooner had I mentioned that the Senate Judiciary Committee had held almost no gun-related hearings in the last 10 months and they schedule a hearing which will include three gun-related bills.

HB 79 Allowing tactical medical professionals to be armed.

SB 208 Expands where LEO can carry.

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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby Pops Fun » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:57 am

Hi,
Has anyone looked for other states that would have similar notification laws, if the proposed law takes effect
or would we be the only one with notification when the drivers license is asked for!!
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby M-Quigley » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:26 pm

Pops Fun wrote:Hi,
Has anyone looked for other states that would have similar notification laws, if the proposed law takes effect
or would we be the only one with notification when the drivers license is asked for!!


https://www.usacarry.com/duty-to-inform-laws/

If I counted correctly, only 7 states have a yes or yes always , the way Ohio does. Even New York state, New Jersey, and Maryland allegedly have better notification requirements than Ohio, and those states are very anti gun. But then if you believe the OSP, changing the notification laws is going to lead to officers dying. You know, like how the OSP said concealed carry would lead to troopers dying, back when licensed carry started, or when the law was changed regarding how you could carry in a car, etc. :roll:
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby Chuck » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:13 pm

Tuesday, November 14, OFCC advocated in the Ohio Senate for our agenda, with notification repeal as our headliner.

I wasn't there, so I can't say much about how it went, but if the other folks want to tell about it, they are welcome to.
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby rickt » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:39 am

First hearing in the Senate Government Oversight and Reform Committee is tomorrow 12/12/2017.
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby Javelin Man » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:43 am

Hopefully they can straighten it out, or let it die like every other piece of legislation has done this year. :roll:
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Re: HB 142 Duty to Inform

Postby Chuck » Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:43 pm

rickt wrote:First hearing in the Senate Government Oversight and Reform Committee is tomorrow 12/12/2017.




Thank you for posting this.
I just heard about it myself and came to do just that
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