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Postby Mustang380gal » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:23 am

Situation: Concealed carry laws in Ohio have some serious problems that need to be corrected.

Background: Notification was a poison pill from the original bill granting concealed handgun licenses. Several Ohioans that have failed to notify fast enough have gotten arrested, and it is one of the more common problems that concealed carriers encounter.

The last law change added confusion whereby political subdivisions could opt in to allow carry but did not remove the requirement for the no carry signs.

We still have a duty to retreat in Ohio.

Assessment: The laws need to be more friendly and less punitive for concealed carry holders, but we need help to get this done.

Recommendation: Help OFCC by attending a Legislative Action Day in Columbus at the Statehouse March 21 and 22. Whether you can help for one day or two would be a great help. These items are what we hope to change, and we are going to try to get them earlier in the session, rather than waiting until the lame duck. Please add MARCH 21 and 22 to your calendar, and plan to meet legislators and aides to get the laws corrected.

For more information, contact Chuck or Morne. They are spearheading this effort.
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS

Postby pirateguy191 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:42 am

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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS

Postby Mustang380gal » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:49 am

At this point, Constitutional Carry is not the point of this.

Right now, we need to fix the mess up from the sausage made during lame duck. And there are these other peculiarities that we need to fix.
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS

Postby Chuck » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:51 pm




If Rep Hood ever introduces it, I'll lobby for it.
Or even has the language drawn up.

Repealing duty to retreat and repealing notification language is in our hands

Did you know?
The Constitutional Carry draft I saw a year or two ago presumed everyone had a license and therefore everyone still had to notify, retreat if possible, etc.
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS

Postby Pops Fun » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:53 pm

I put it on the calendar... Not much of a talker, but I can be there :)
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS

Postby pirateguy191 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:30 pm

Chuck wrote:



If Rep Hood ever introduces it, I'll lobby for it.
Or even has the language drawn up.

Repealing duty to retreat and repealing notification language is in our hands

Did you know?
The Constitutional Carry draft I saw a year or two ago presumed everyone had a license and therefore everyone still had to notify, retreat if possible, etc.


Don't make me come down there Chuck.
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS

Postby Chuck » Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:10 pm

I WANT you to come down here!
Especially on the 21 & 22
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS

Postby pirateguy191 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:00 pm

Chuck wrote:I WANT you to come down here!
Especially on the 21 & 22


#nofilters
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS

Postby Morne » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:05 pm

pirateguy191 wrote:
Chuck wrote:I WANT you to come down here!
Especially on the 21 & 22


#nofilters

I'm not seeing the downside. :idea:

Just so everybody knows, we are trying to put together multiple TEAMS of OFCC people to go to these meetings. The idea is to have at least 2 of our people for every meeting which helps because someone may articulate one point better than someone else. Also, some people are just naturally better with one legislator's personality than another's.

Having a good-cop/bad-cop on a team is a valid approach. There's nothing wrong with having someone on a team saying, "We want all of this garbage out of our way." That is, and always has been, the ultimate goal of our organization. Big picture, there. Remind those guys/gals in the statehouse of that. Of course, while we're there we ALSO want to say, "Fix the mess y'all made in that lame duck, get us true SYG with civil immunity and ditch notification." Those positions are not mutually exclusive at all.
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS

Postby sd790 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:53 pm

I'm in. Bringing Mrs. sd790 and maybe my two daughters (16 & 18).
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS

Postby pirateguy191 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:49 pm

I do have two vacation days left that have to be used before April. Hmmmmm.......
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS

Postby Chuck » Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:06 pm

pirateguy191 wrote:I do have two vacation days left that have to be used before April. Hmmmmm.......


These particular dates we're using is because I have two I have to use before March 25
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS

Postby WestonDon » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:19 am

I'm in for both days. So is Mrs WestonDon.
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS

Postby Chuck » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:27 am

Excellent Don!
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Re: LEGISLATIVE ACTION DAYS

Postby Pops Fun » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:10 am

Tried to get the wife to come... even offered overnight in wonderful Columbus.... no joy... lol
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