Action on SB199 including parking lot carry

[westsidebestside]

Sorry if I missed this, but is the Governor expected to sign off on the legislation?

[FormerNavy]

Sorry if I missed this, but is the Governor expected to sign off on the legislation?

To piggy back on this, do we know when it was delivered to the governor to start the 10 day countdown?

[Birdman]

Yes, when is the law in effect? Upon the Gov's signature? A certain later date? I could not find that info anywhere.

[Brian D.]

Yes, when is the law in effect? Upon the Gov's signature? A certain later date? I could not find that info anywhere.

Typically, ninety days after the Secretary of State verifies the i's have crossed and the t's have been dotted. Normally that's immediately after the Governor signs the bill, assuming he does. Most folks just say "ninety days after the Governor's signature", and that's close enough, really. Come on Birdman, you been a member here a long time, can't you remember all the silly minutia involved in Ohio sausage law making by now?

[JustaShooter]

Everything I have heard and read says we expect him to sign this act. I have not, however, been able to find out when it was submitted to the Governor for his signature.

If he signs the act, it becomes becomes law 90 days after it is filed by the Secretary of State. If the governor takes no action within 10 days of receiving the act, it becomes law in 90 days without his or her signature.

[mrbone]

Doesn't really trample property rights since the car that my firearm remains in is owned by me, not by my employer. But does interfere with private contract rights. Nonetheless, the government at all levels is involved in dictating whom you can and can't hire or fire, how much you have to pay them, how many hours you can let them work and under what conditions, etc. So this isn't really changing much in that regard.

Question is, where do we put the brakes on? I mean, if we continue to let them chip away - where does it all stop? We certainly cannot trust our elected officials to draw that line...

Easy: We put the brakes on the ones that don't benefit us. Then repeal the ones that do benefit us after those are gone. Until then, if other people get to be a protected class then I might as well be one, too.

[Werz]

I don't care about any dog
You get a warrant to search my car and I'm still not working there any more

• Generally, a search warrant is not required for a governmental search of a motor vehicle.
• A warrant is irrelevant to a private search of a motor vehicle.
• Because it would be a private search of the vehicle, for a private violation, the police won't get involved 'cuz it ain't their problem.

[curmudgeon3]

Everything I have heard and read says we expect him to sign this act. I have not, however, been able to find out when it was submitted to the Governor for his signature.

If he signs the act, it becomes becomes law 90 days after it is filed by the Secretary of State. If the governor takes no action within 10 days of receiving the act, it becomes law in 90 days without his or her signature.

He's down to about four days.

[Javelin Man]

Doesn't the law become in effect 90 days after it arrives at the Secretary's office? If it takes a day to leave the Governor's desk after it's been signed, that's just one more day till it takes effect?

[JustaShooter]

Doesn't the law become in effect 90 days after it arrives at the Secretary's office? If it takes a day to leave the Governor's desk after it's been signed, that's just one more day till it takes effect?

It takes effect 90 days after it is *filed* by the Secretary of State, so yes, if there is a delay from when it is signed to when it arrives, or from when it arrives till it is filed, those all delay when it goes into effect.

[JustaShooter]

Everything I have heard and read says we expect him to sign this act. I have not, however, been able to find out when it was submitted to the Governor for his signature.

If he signs the act, it becomes becomes law 90 days after it is filed by the Secretary of State. If the governor takes no action within 10 days of receiving the act, it becomes law in 90 days without his or her signature.

He's down to about four days.

Depends on when it was submitted to him - was it the 9th? Monday the 12th? I don't know - one would hope, and expect that it was submitted to him the first business day after it passed - but it passed at 3:15am on the 9th...

[Stryker74]

Doesn't really trample property rights since the car that my firearm remains in is owned by me, not by my employer. But does interfere with private contract rights. Nonetheless, the government at all levels is involved in dictating whom you can and can't hire or fire, how much you have to pay them, how many hours you can let them work and under what conditions, etc. So this isn't really changing much in that regard.

Question is, where do we put the brakes on? I mean, if we continue to let them chip away - where does it all stop? We certainly cannot trust our elected officials to draw that line...

Easy: We put the brakes on the ones that don't benefit us. Then repeal the ones that do benefit us after those are gone. Until then, if other people get to be a protected class then I might as well be one, too.

But that's just it - this version of the bill removes the protected class verbiage.

All it does is force one individual to bend to the will of another. Sorry, but that benefits noone in the long run.

This whole parking lot storage issue comes down to one group getting what they want at the expense of another. Unless this bill gets blamed on the Russians too...

[curmudgeon3]

This whole parking lot storage issue comes down to one group getting what they want at the expense of another.

Stryker, for clarification, could you define "expense" ? (There is no liability involved here.)

[Stryker74]

This whole parking lot storage issue comes down to one group getting what they want at the expense of another.

Stryker, for clarification, could you define "expense" ? (There is no liability involved here.)

No liability, but property owners will be forced to allow firearms on their property.

I am very pro-gun, but I am more pro-rights. Property owners should be allowed to handle it as they wish. Just like we can be employed other places.

Life is replete with choices. Until Big Brother says otherwise.

[JediSkipdogg]

Until Big Brother says otherwise.

And one thing we all on here agree on is government control is bad. So why do so many support the government's right to dictate what businesses must allow on their property? In a shoe box or in a car is no difference. It is still someone else's property.