JOHN KASICH'S O.G.A. LEGISLATIVE BACKLOG
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JOHN KASICH'S O.G.A. LEGISLATIVE BACKLOG
Things seem to be moving abnormally slow in the Legislature. No pro-gun bills have reached the Governor's desk for approval in over two years; there's currently about ten of them on the docket with no sign of movement.
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Busy campaigning you know. When he is back, time will tell.
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Even when the gov's not campaigning for president most gun-friendly bills don't reach his desk until the final days of the legislative session (i.e. following the November elections in which a number of OGA members were up for reelection).
Honestly I expect maybe a little bit of committee work between now and May. At that point the OGA will be off to campaign and whatnot until after the elections. If there are any sessions during the summer they will most assuredly have nothing to do with anything of any substance, guns or otherwise. Come mid-November, early December things will start heating up. I don't like it but I no longer allow myself to get upset over it.
Honestly I expect maybe a little bit of committee work between now and May. At that point the OGA will be off to campaign and whatnot until after the elections. If there are any sessions during the summer they will most assuredly have nothing to do with anything of any substance, guns or otherwise. Come mid-November, early December things will start heating up. I don't like it but I no longer allow myself to get upset over it.
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Just 30 days ago (2/17/2016), HB 235 passed the House on a vote of 96-2.curmudgeon3 wrote:... there's currently about ten of them on the docket with no sign of movement. :?:
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HB 234 was sent to the Governor on 12/18/2014 and signed the next day. Unless your math is different than mine, that is only 15 months ago.curmudgeon3 wrote:No pro-gun bills have reached the Governor's desk for approval in over two years
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Your research was more precise than my memory. Thanks for checking. Movement of one out of ten ain't bad.
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And they've already added on to the original HB 235.
If passed, you can renew your license at ANY time prior to expiration, instead of having to wait until 90 days prior.
That will help folks with reciprocity since renewals now include a NICS check.
I hope this bill sees MANY more additions prior to passage.
But it won't pass until either Kasich drops out of the presidential race or until after the elections.
Look for one multi-purpose pro-gun bill to pass in mid to late December.
If passed, you can renew your license at ANY time prior to expiration, instead of having to wait until 90 days prior.
That will help folks with reciprocity since renewals now include a NICS check.
I hope this bill sees MANY more additions prior to passage.
But it won't pass until either Kasich drops out of the presidential race or until after the elections.
Look for one multi-purpose pro-gun bill to pass in mid to late December.
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But what will be the effective date of your new license ? The expiration date of the expiring license ? Or the date the new license was issued ?MyWifeSaidYes wrote:And they've already added on to the original HB 235.
If passed, you can renew your license at ANY time prior to expiration, instead of having to wait until 90 days prior.....
If it's the latter, and if you "jump the gun" (couldn't resist ) and apply January 1 for a license that expires June 30th, and they turn it around and issue the new one February 15th, you've paid for 4 & 1/2 months of licensure under the old license that you never got. And if the new law doesn't specify, that means it will probably be county-by-county (like so much appears to be). And if they issue the new one effective Feb. 15th, is the old one immediately cancelled ? How ? By operation of law ? By the Sheriff contacting the state and cancelling the old one ?
Having more time is certainly a nice idea -- if it's done right. Not sure yet this did it right. Maybe someone on here knows more about it than I, but I can see some potential land mines in it.
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Offhand, I can't think of any reason Gov. Kasich might have for wanting to pass another pro-gun bill in the state of Ohio between now and the end of his tenure in Columbus, whenever that might be.gfrlaser wrote:Busy campaigning you know. When he is back, time will tell.
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Good questions.docachna wrote:But what will be the effective date of your new license ? The expiration date of the expiring license ? Or the date the new license was issued ?MyWifeSaidYes wrote:And they've already added on to the original HB 235.
If passed, you can renew your license at ANY time prior to expiration, instead of having to wait until 90 days prior.....
If it's the latter, and if you "jump the gun" (couldn't resist ) and apply January 1 for a license that expires June 30th, and they turn it around and issue the new one February 15th, you've paid for 4 & 1/2 months of licensure under the old license that you never got. And if the new law doesn't specify, that means it will probably be county-by-county (like so much appears to be). And if they issue the new one effective Feb. 15th, is the old one immediately cancelled ? How ? By operation of law ? By the Sheriff contacting the state and cancelling the old one ?
Having more time is certainly a nice idea -- if it's done right. Not sure yet this did it right. Maybe someone on here knows more about it than I, but I can see some potential land mines in it.
A renewed license is going to expire 5 years after the date of issue, as per R.C. 2923.125(F)(2), so that means you would "lose" the remaining time on your old license.
If you renew a license in 2016 that doesn't expire until 2019, you'll "lose" 3 years, but you will gain the NICS check and reciprocity with any state that requires it.
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"Gain" Obama's federal NICS check ......... and reciprocity with an additional two states.If you renew a license in 2016 that doesn't expire until 2019, you'll "lose" 3 years, but you will gain the NICS check and reciprocity with any state that requires it.
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Hey, you won't see ME running out to renew early.curmudgeon3 wrote: "Gain" Obama's federal NICS check ......... and reciprocity with an additional two states.
But the NICS check is a done deal and reciprocity could save some folks money and time.
And the fact that this would remove a restriction, even such a minor one, is a step in the right direction.
AND it doesn't affect current CHL holders who have no desire to renew early.
There have been many threads on this forum where licensees have complained about the restrictive 90-day window to renew. Even when we point out the 30-day grace period, people complained. Well, here is their fix. If you want to renew 91 days before your license expires, you can. If you want to renew 91 days after your license was issued, you can. That would be stupid, but that's often what freedom looks like.
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