Please confirm again what I already know for my sanity.
If I have a class that consists of six hours of classroom time and two hours of range time. This is a total of 8 hours. This class was held in April. This meets the most recent law change. Correct? Just had a certificate rejected. Sorting it out with the sheriff tomorrow but it's a little disconcerting.
Fwiw, the deputy said we needed to do 8 hours in class AND 2 hours range time. For a total of 10 hours.
Class time confirmation
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8 hours total.
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From 2923.125 Application and licensing process.
(G)(1) Each course, class, or program described in division (B)(3)(a), (b), (c), or (e) of this section shall provide to each person who takes the course, class, or program the web site address at which the pamphlet prepared by the Ohio peace officer training commission pursuant to section 109.731 of the Revised Code that reviews firearms, dispute resolution, and use of deadly force matters may be found. Each such course, class, or program described in one of those divisions shall include at least eight hours of training in the safe handling and use of a firearm that shall include training, provided as described in division (G)(3) of this section, on all of the following:
(a)The ability to name, explain, and demonstrate the rules for safe handling of a handgun and proper storage practices for handguns and ammunition;
(b) The ability to demonstrate and explain how to handle ammunition in a safe manner;
(c) The ability to demonstrate the knowledge, skills, and attitude necessary to shoot a handgun in a safe manner;
(d) Gun handling training ;
(e) A minimum of two hours of in-person training that consists of range time and live-fire training.
Tell them it's 8 hours for you to cover sections (a) to (e). Of those sections, only (e) specifies a time limit and that is the minimum amount that must be spent in that area alone. If you want to cover 7 hours in (e) and 1 hour in (a) to (d) you are allowed to do that. But by the wording of "at least eight hours of training....on all of the following:" and then has five specific areas, it infers (e) is covered in that 8 hours as well. If you have issues, send them my way. I've kind of taken a break on Lorain County (they just need a total website redesign and me to stop talking with people that need someone to interpret plain english for them) for now and need a new county to hassle.
(G)(1) Each course, class, or program described in division (B)(3)(a), (b), (c), or (e) of this section shall provide to each person who takes the course, class, or program the web site address at which the pamphlet prepared by the Ohio peace officer training commission pursuant to section 109.731 of the Revised Code that reviews firearms, dispute resolution, and use of deadly force matters may be found. Each such course, class, or program described in one of those divisions shall include at least eight hours of training in the safe handling and use of a firearm that shall include training, provided as described in division (G)(3) of this section, on all of the following:
(a)The ability to name, explain, and demonstrate the rules for safe handling of a handgun and proper storage practices for handguns and ammunition;
(b) The ability to demonstrate and explain how to handle ammunition in a safe manner;
(c) The ability to demonstrate the knowledge, skills, and attitude necessary to shoot a handgun in a safe manner;
(d) Gun handling training ;
(e) A minimum of two hours of in-person training that consists of range time and live-fire training.
Tell them it's 8 hours for you to cover sections (a) to (e). Of those sections, only (e) specifies a time limit and that is the minimum amount that must be spent in that area alone. If you want to cover 7 hours in (e) and 1 hour in (a) to (d) you are allowed to do that. But by the wording of "at least eight hours of training....on all of the following:" and then has five specific areas, it infers (e) is covered in that 8 hours as well. If you have issues, send them my way. I've kind of taken a break on Lorain County (they just need a total website redesign and me to stop talking with people that need someone to interpret plain english for them) for now and need a new county to hassle.
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Thanks guys, I expect it to be cleared up rather easily. I'm just a worrywart. I also feel bad for the student whose certificate was rejected for this. I can't imagine what he must be thinking/feeling.
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If it is not cleared up quickly, just let us know what county.
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Does this deputy have a name?Mindbender14 wrote:Please confirm again what I already know for my sanity.
If I have a class that consists of six hours of classroom time and two hours of range time. This is a total of 8 hours. This class was held in April. This meets the most recent law change. Correct? Just had a certificate rejected. Sorting it out with the sheriff tomorrow but it's a little disconcerting.
Fwiw, the deputy said we needed to do 8 hours in class AND 2 hours range time. For a total of 10 hours.
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Re: Class time confirmation
Sorry, totally forgot to update this. Mistakes were made, don't have any names. Emailed the sheriff and got confirmation a few days after. We were right of course.