carmen fovozzo wrote:JediSkipdogg wrote:carmen fovozzo wrote:Not sure if this was covered here......
IF one day we get passed a law that says anyone that is legal to CC can go into any place including Police Dept. Schools, church's etc..What would you say about that ? No license, no training ?
So my gun is going to automatically discharge by stepping onto a school, church, police department property?
That is not what I said....
Is there a reason you ask a question for every question I have ? I asked a question and you get sarcastic. I wasn't referring to YOUR gun..I was referring to everyone in general....like people that wanted to prove a point if it was legal to go flaunting it like some OC guys do...lighten up a bit...
And so what if those guys want to go flaunting a bit? Right now they can do it on the public sidewalk in front of any school. Even without a gun, they can't technically go into any school they want. The school could tell them to leave and they would have to leave. So I'll throw the school one out.
With a police department, who cares? I welcome a group to come protest in my PD lobby. Do something stupid such as start pointing the gun around, win stupid prizes is all I have to say. They can do it in the parking lot right now. Wasn't that one of OFCCs first major walks? In front of a town hall and police department. Not a single carry license was used to do that walk and since there was no state training mandate, any training that those carriers used was sought on their own. I don't recall anyone shooting themselves then so it must have been pretty safe.
Church? First of all, leave it up to the church to post. Making them no carry zones by statute is dumb. What if by statute all businesses were no carry zones and had to post that carry was allowed? How would that change anything. It wouldn't.
Training is nice, yes. But when you make it mandatory, you greatly devalue it and it does not guarantee or lower the risk of anything bad happening. There's a campaign going around Ohio and nationwide through law enforcement called Below 100. The idea...to lower officer deaths in a year under 100. Is the goal great? Sure. But do you really think telling an officer in training to wear his seat belt is going to cause him to wear his seat belt? If they haven't worn it yet, telling them it's unsafe isn't going to persuade them to start. They've most likely already responsded to a major crash where a person wasn't wearing one and seen how much worse it can be. 4 hours of training isn't going to persuade them differently. Do you really think telling them to wear a vest is going to cause them to wear a vest? Either the department mandates it or they don't. So not really an officer case there at all. Hence, you can't train the stupidity out of people and unless the state fully developes what is taught, you can't guarantee that You and I received the same training. And the state mandated training in different areas is worse than any private training I've taken.
Is that a better answer?