Will Ohio ever become a STAND YOUR GROUND state?
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Will Ohio ever become a STAND YOUR GROUND state?
Michigan, Pennsylvania, KY and Indiana are all STAND YOUR GROUND states.
Ohio is surrounded by Stand your ground states, but Ohio has a duty to retreat.
HB 203 was a good start, but it didn't go anywhere.
When are we gonna pass stand your ground in OHIO?
Will this happen in the next few years? What do we need to do? Who can we write to?
Ohio is surrounded by Stand your ground states, but Ohio has a duty to retreat.
HB 203 was a good start, but it didn't go anywhere.
When are we gonna pass stand your ground in OHIO?
Will this happen in the next few years? What do we need to do? Who can we write to?
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Re: Will Ohio ever become a STAND YOUR GROUND state?
When the anti's stop putting so much pressure on it being a shoot at will issue and saying that the Zimmerman/Martin case was a Stand Your Ground case. Unfortunately, most states gained SYG before that mess in Florida. I'd have to research, but I've venture since then, none have gained it.
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Re: Will Ohio ever become a STAND YOUR GROUND state?
Honestly I would rather see us get rid of the backwards prove your case is more likely than not standard by which we are the only state in the country that uses it.
Otoh I don't worry much about duty to retreat as there are very few circumstances where that is an option for me owing to my disability.
Otoh I don't worry much about duty to retreat as there are very few circumstances where that is an option for me owing to my disability.
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Re: Will Ohio ever become a STAND YOUR GROUND state?
I practice shooting while backing up.
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Re: Will Ohio ever become a STAND YOUR GROUND state?
Ray, the FIRST thing you "need" to do is support a pro-gun rights organization WITHIN the state of Ohio, like, say, maybe Ohioans for Concealed Carry?Ray81 wrote:...
Will this happen in the next few years? What do we need to do? Who can we write to?
Join as a member ($25/year) or, preferably, as a patron member ($60/year).
This money goes directly to supporting the changes you are looking for. OFCC is an all-volunteer organization, top to bottom.
Do you enjoy the OFCC forums? I do. I think this forum is the second-best place to find out about firearms law in Ohio (The best? My attorney's office. )
There are annual fees for domain names, fees for hosting and server upkeep. There are fees that have to be paid to the state to keep the business running. Printing and postage are not cheap, I'm sure.
But what do you get for supporting OFCC financially? You get the group RESPONSIBLE FOR OHIO'S SHALL-ISSUE CONCEALED CARRY LAW BECOMING A REALITY to keep working on passing good laws and fighting and repealing bad laws.
The second thing you "need" to do is come visit us at the Westland Gun Show on the weekend of April 25th. If you can sit behind a table and talk to people about guns for about 4 hours, we'll get you into the show for free AND put your name in a drawing for a gun giveaway.
The third thing you "need" to do is exactly what you are already doing. Learning.
Continue to seek out knowledge, whether it's on this forum, at the gun show table with actual OFCC members , by reading or by taking more training...keep learning. The best learning is to join us at the Statehouse for a rally (symbolic activism) or to testify in front of a legislative committee (actual activism). Once you've learned how the legislative process actually works, you will understand two things:
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I put the word "need"
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Re: Will Ohio ever become a STAND YOUR GROUND state?
^^Good post ^^
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Re: Will Ohio ever become a STAND YOUR GROUND state?
Looks like my entire post didn't make it. Oops.
As I was saying, I put the word "need" in quotes because you don't "need" to do anything. OFCC is already here fighting on your behalf, at the state level AND at the county, township, city, village and at any other level of political subdivision within the state.
While many of the volunteers here work independently or in small groups, those and larger efforts are coordinated here on this forum. If you find a problem at 11 o'clock at night, you can post that info here and someone else can start working on it first thing in the morning. If you hear of a problem on the other side of the state, post it here and someone who lives in or closer to that area can start working on it. When it's time to put on a show of force down at the Statehouse, such as overflowing the seating area of a committee hearing room, it gets announced here.
The only question is whether you "want" OFCC to keep being the nerve center of pro-gun activism in Ohio.
If that's what you "want", then joining as a member is truly what you "need".
As I was saying, I put the word "need" in quotes because you don't "need" to do anything. OFCC is already here fighting on your behalf, at the state level AND at the county, township, city, village and at any other level of political subdivision within the state.
While many of the volunteers here work independently or in small groups, those and larger efforts are coordinated here on this forum. If you find a problem at 11 o'clock at night, you can post that info here and someone else can start working on it first thing in the morning. If you hear of a problem on the other side of the state, post it here and someone who lives in or closer to that area can start working on it. When it's time to put on a show of force down at the Statehouse, such as overflowing the seating area of a committee hearing room, it gets announced here.
The only question is whether you "want" OFCC to keep being the nerve center of pro-gun activism in Ohio.
If that's what you "want", then joining as a member is truly what you "need".
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Re: Will Ohio ever become a STAND YOUR GROUND state?
Donate money to leadership…broken record… broken record…donate time and money to work for candidates who support your views, etc. It isn't cheap in terms of time and money. Support those organizations which mirror your views.
You may get something out of it if you put something into it.
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Re: Will Ohio ever become a STAND YOUR GROUND state?
Done. I became a paid member of OFCC.
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'Effing A right!!
And WELCOME!!
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"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.
And because I can not do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do.
What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of GOD, I will do."- Edward Everett Hale (descendant of Nathan Hale)
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"I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.
And because I can not do everything, I will not refuse to do the something I can do.
What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of GOD, I will do."- Edward Everett Hale (descendant of Nathan Hale)
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Re: Will Ohio ever become a STAND YOUR GROUND state?
Thanks....
Did anyone introduce Stand your ground bill this year?
I can't find anything online...
Did anyone introduce Stand your ground bill this year?
I can't find anything online...
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Re: Will Ohio ever become a STAND YOUR GROUND state?
I think there has been talk of an SYG bill, bit other bills are of more importance it seems at the moment.
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Let my aim be true and my hand faster
than those who would seek to destroy me.
Grant me victory over my foes and those who wish to do harm to me and mine.
Let not my last thought be 'If I only had my gun."
And Lord, if today is truly the day you call me home
Let me die in a pile of empty brass."
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Re: Will Ohio ever become a STAND YOUR GROUND state?
As has been previously mentioned the Zimmerman/Martin case is a huge speed bump on the road to SYG. I am also convinced Bloomberg, Sharpton and their ilk along with the Lewinski media are poised to strike when a serious effort is made to pass SYG in Ohio. I would like to see SYG also. That said, I believe our limited resources should be directed where it will do the most good.
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Re: Will Ohio ever become a STAND YOUR GROUND state?
The concept needs to be introduced with a new name. Call it something other than "Stand Your Ground".
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Re: Will Ohio ever become a STAND YOUR GROUND state?
BobK wrote:The concept needs to be introduced with a new name. Call it something other than "Stand Your Ground".
Probably a very good idea, I think the name Stand your ground has a stigma attached to it now.
"Lord, make my hand fast and accurate.
Let my aim be true and my hand faster
than those who would seek to destroy me.
Grant me victory over my foes and those who wish to do harm to me and mine.
Let not my last thought be 'If I only had my gun."
And Lord, if today is truly the day you call me home
Let me die in a pile of empty brass."
Amen
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~The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.~ Thomas Jefferson
Let my aim be true and my hand faster
than those who would seek to destroy me.
Grant me victory over my foes and those who wish to do harm to me and mine.
Let not my last thought be 'If I only had my gun."
And Lord, if today is truly the day you call me home
Let me die in a pile of empty brass."
Amen
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~The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.~ Thomas Jefferson