This brings up more curiosity along the lines of "What were they thinking?". The new 2923.1210 prevents employers from enacting or enforcing policies that prohibit employees with concealed carry licenses from storing firearms in their vehicles. However, the newly revised 2923.126 still has the old "(C)(1) Nothing in this section shall negate or restrict a rule, policy, or practice of a private employer that is not a private college, university, or other institution of higher education concerning or prohibiting the presence of firearms on the private employer's premises or property, including motor vehicles owned by the private employer." 2923.216 is before 2923.1210. Now I know 2923.16 says "Nothing in this section shall negate or restrict", meaning nothing in 2923.16 can do that, but you really have to wonder how the numbskulls in Columbus got elected to office and were entrusted to govern the state.JediSkipdogg wrote:I would say since this is AFTER the other section this one now takes precedence for at least daycare places.FormerNavy wrote:I'm wondering how this is reconciled with parking lots only being a civil problem. Does one take precedent over the other?JediSkipdogg wrote:
One of my biggest issues is the change of this one. Yes, they removed the statutory prohibition, however, they made it if they post the parking lot it is now a felony. Prior to this, I could gladly go into any daycare parking lot and be safe as long as I didn't take the firearm in the building. Unfortunately it says "posted land or premise" which to me depending on the wording one places on their front door, could include the entire land, at which point it is now an F4 violation for the firearm being loaded in the vehicle. HUGE step backwards on that one.
HB 48: Remove some CPZs; modify affirmative defense
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They don't care about us at the Statehouse because we don't bring them stacks of campaign money. Nor do we have a full time advocate/lobbyist to take them out for dinner and drinks.
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We just deliver votes, lots of votes.Brian D. wrote:They don't care about us at the Statehouse because we don't bring them stacks of campaign money. Nor do we have a full time advocate/lobbyist to take them out for dinner and drinks.
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They don't need those for another 18 months.Javelin Man wrote:We just deliver votes, lots of votes.Brian D. wrote:They don't care about us at the Statehouse because we don't bring them stacks of campaign money. Nor do we have a full time advocate/lobbyist to take them out for dinner and drinks.
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I think they take our votes for granted. Brian D. has it right. By supporting us they risk offending other constituents who come bearing big bags of money.
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The version they posted on the codes.ohio.gov website is full of places where there are extra spaces, etc, especially in the revised / added sections. Sloppy.
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I'll have you know that the LSC rightfully takes weeks, months even to get the final copy of laws published. Any errors you perceive are merely figments of your own imagination. What you see is, in fact what the drunken legislators passed at 3AM of their final day in session. Of course I'm kidding. I think.techguy85 wrote:The version they posted on the codes.ohio.gov website is full of places where there are extra spaces, etc, especially in the revised / added sections. Sloppy.
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At least you hope you are.djthomas wrote:I'll have you know that the LSC rightfully takes weeks, months even to get the final copy of laws published. Any errors you perceive are merely figments of your own imagination. What you see is, in fact what the drunken legislators passed at 3AM of their final day in session. Of course I'm kidding. I think.techguy85 wrote:The version they posted on the codes.ohio.gov website is full of places where there are extra spaces, etc, especially in the revised / added sections. Sloppy.
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