Legislative Alert! - - Call to Action!!

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JediSkipdogg wrote:
WestonDon wrote:Does this mean I won't have to renew my PA license in order to drive through Georgia? Yaa.
That's up to George. I'm not sure why Georgia won't accept ours, but if it's merely on the basis of a NICS check, they should now accept us.
I have been away for awhile and reading this thread now, I am confused though which is nothing new with me :?
So we now have to go through the federal background check and not the check we previously had where it was Ohio doing the check? I remember awhile back some people wanted this for reciprocity with Texas and some didn't want it because it would add a new hurdle for some people?
Also is this the part where the NRA wanted it but many Ohio residents were against it? Sorry for a dumb question but as I stated I have been away due to some family problems :(
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DontTreadOnMe wrote:Don't be. She terminated the agreement with Utah because "an individual may apply for a non-resident concealed firearm permit despite the applicant not possessing a concealed carry permit from their home state.".
Sounds about right. 2A issues aside there's a nice recap of some of her recent blunders here. She's also refusing to defend a new state preemption statute.
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GatorNavy wrote:
JediSkipdogg wrote:
WestonDon wrote:Does this mean I won't have to renew my PA license in order to drive through Georgia? Yaa.
That's up to George. I'm not sure why Georgia won't accept ours, but if it's merely on the basis of a NICS check, they should now accept us.
I have been away for awhile and reading this thread now, I am confused though which is nothing new with me :?
So we now have to go through the federal background check and not the check we previously had where it was Ohio doing the check? I remember awhile back some people wanted this for reciprocity with Texas and some didn't want it because it would add a new hurdle for some people?
Also is this the part where the NRA wanted it but many Ohio residents were against it? Sorry for a dumb question but as I stated I have been away due to some family problems :(
Ok....I'll try not to confuse you more.

For new and renewals after this bill goes into effect (sometime in late March) we will just be adding NICS checks onto applications. It will still be BCI only for more than 5 years in Ohio and BCI and FBI for more than 5 years. Keep in mind, Ohio's CHL is actually more restrictive than buying a firearm, many for the fact that we still prohibit misdemeanor drug violations.

So we will still have two separate fees and two separate check methods...
A) BCI + NICS
B) BCI + FBI + NICS

The NICS addition will give us some additional reciprocal states (Texas is the only one coming to mind for sure) and only be more restrictive in terms of denying those that may have mental health conditions. However, those denied a CHL by basis of a NICS denial shouldn't be in possession of a firearm anyways (assuming a legit denial.)

The reason many in Ohio were against it was actually removed from Sub HB 234. It was in HB 203 and was rumored to be included in Sub HB 234 but I think thanks to the OFCC Email blast fronting some out on it, it was not included.

Hopefully that answered your question, if not I just confused you and myself. LOL
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JediSkipdogg wrote:The NICS addition will give us some additional reciprocal states (Texas is the only one coming to mind for sure) and only be more restrictive in terms of denying those that may have mental health conditions.
No! I realize that you're trying to be sensitive in your terminology, but if you do that, you need to be accurate. Try "mental health adjudications." Enough of our "fringe element" believe - and try to convince others - that a simple diagnosis of depression or PTSD is sufficient for da gubmint to kick in your door and take all your guns. And that is simply false, no matter how paranoid you are.
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Werz wrote:
JediSkipdogg wrote:The NICS addition will give us some additional reciprocal states (Texas is the only one coming to mind for sure) and only be more restrictive in terms of denying those that may have mental health conditions.
No! I realize that you're trying to be sensitive in your terminology, but if you do that, you need to be accurate. Try "mental health adjudications." Enough of our "fringe element" believe - and try to convince others - that a simple diagnosis of depression or PTSD is sufficient for da gubmint to kick in your door and take all your guns. And that is simply false, no matter how paranoid you are.
Not trying to be sensitive, just a slip of the terminology. Thanks for the correction.
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Jedi and Werz, thank you as I am now Un-cornfused and I appreciate both of you two, hopefully I can come around more and keep up on matters
Thanks again
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JediSkipdogg wrote:
Werz wrote:
JediSkipdogg wrote:The NICS addition will give us some additional reciprocal states (Texas is the only one coming to mind for sure) and only be more restrictive in terms of denying those that may have mental health conditions.
No! I realize that you're trying to be sensitive in your terminology, but if you do that, you need to be accurate. Try "mental health adjudications." Enough of our "fringe element" believe - and try to convince others - that a simple diagnosis of depression or PTSD is sufficient for da gubmint to kick in your door and take all your guns. And that is simply false, no matter how paranoid you are.
Not trying to be sensitive, just a slip of the terminology. Thanks for the correction.
Sorry. Didn't mean to be harsh. I was just anticipating a rant from the usual suspects.
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Since the bill is passed, and reported to be signed, it makes sense to keep all conversation in the thread created after passing.

http://ohioccwforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=82705

I'm locking this one for clarity.
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