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ROBERT LUDEMAN BACK CARTY FINKBEINER!!

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THIS ABSOLUE BS! BUT ITS TRUE! I GUESS EVERYONE PICKED THE WRONG GUY EH?

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I think this year I'm gonna vote for None of the Above. Carty has been the Mayor of Toledo before. He was an absolute disaster.

I'll grant that there is no greater cheerleader for Toledo than Carty, but he makes for a miserable leader. He micromanages, misspeaks, and misleads. I voted for him once, but then he came up with his "Saturday Night Special" law and I didn't vote for him a second time.

Mayor Jack Ford is a much more personable and pleasant man. But when he voted to break the city council deadlock in favor of continuing Carty's gun ban which was set to expire, he lost my vote.

Ludeman was one of the few city councilmen with any brains or vestiges of sanity. Unfortunately, he ran for mayor as a Republican and thus never even had a chance.

Having no mayor at all would be preferable to having either Carty or Ford. Neither of these loons has a care for individual rights. Both are wholly in the pocket of the Democratic Party.
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tommcnaughton wrote:I think this year I'm gonna vote for None of the Above. Carty has been the Mayor of Toledo before. He was an absolute disaster.

I'll grant that there is no greater cheerleader for Toledo than Carty, but he makes for a miserable leader. He micromanages, misspeaks, and misleads. I voted for him once, but then he came up with his "Saturday Night Special" law and I didn't vote for him a second time.

Mayor Jack Ford is a much more personable and pleasant man. But when he voted to break the city council deadlock in favor of continuing Carty's gun ban which was set to expire, he lost my vote.

Ludeman was one of the few city councilmen with any brains or vestiges of sanity. Unfortunately, he ran for mayor as a Republican and thus never even had a chance.

Having no mayor at all would be preferable to having either Carty or Ford. Neither of these loons has a care for individual rights. Both are wholly in the pocket of the Democratic Party.
I am going to write myself in or Daffy Duck. I haven't decided. Maybe I will Vote for Tom Mc LOL
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Hermangotshisguns wrote:I am going to write myself in or Daffy Duck. I haven't decided.
Yup, that must be a tough call... 8)
Hermangotshisguns wrote:Maybe I will Vote for Tom Mc LOL

Heck, if everybody on this list were to write me in, I'd get nearly as many votes as Ludeman did.... :?
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Re: ROBERT LUDEMAN BACK CARTY FINKBEINER!!

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Hermangotshisguns wrote:THIS ABSOLUE BS! BUT ITS TRUE! I GUESS EVERYONE PICKED THE WRONG GUY EH?

http://www.wspd.com/cc-common/local_new ... feed=local
He could be playing politics. You're the only elected Republican on council. How else will he get anything done? Also, if the district he represents overwhelmingly voted for Carty over Ludeman, this could help him keep his seat on council by supporting the people his district supports.

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jgarvas wrote:He could be playing politics. You're the only elected Republican on council. How else will he get anything done?
Yes, I was considering these very matters. Watching Ludeman trying to get anything done is like watching a long-tailed cat negotiating a room full of rocking chairs.

I spent about a decade as a registered Democrat when I first moved to Toledo. It was helpful for the many times I had to address the city council over one or another lame-brained gun bill. I switched to the Republican party during the 2000 primary so I could vote for W, and haven't gotten around to switching back yet.

The Republican Party here is a total washout. Keep in mind that Tom Noe (the guy in the news who likes to invest in coins..... :roll: ) has been the leader of the party here for years... :?
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jgarvas wrote:
He could be playing politics. You're the only elected Republican on council. How else will he get anything done?
He has 2 years left on council and as far as I know the people voted him in and should have nothing to do in who he backs. But I dont claim to know anything
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Hermangotshisguns wrote:He has 2 years left on council and as far as I know the people voted him in and should have nothing to do in who he backs. But I dont claim to know anything
I find it interesting that, even though we may have strikingly different points of view on substance, principle, strategy, and tactics, we can from time to time find something on which we both agree.... 8)
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Beavis and Butthead for Mayor. It is an intellectual step up, right???
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