How bad would Sherrod Brown be in Mike (D)eWhine's seat?
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How bad would Sherrod Brown be in Mike (D)eWhine's seat?
Just heard on WTVN that he was planning on running for it--first I've heard it. Where's he stand on issues near and dear to our hearts?
FWIW: just as abortion is a litmus test for the loony left, a sober mature attitude towards guns and the Right Keep to and Bear them is my personal litmus test.
In my experience, people who cannot be trusted to uphold the Second Amendment can be trusted with very little else.
FWIW: just as abortion is a litmus test for the loony left, a sober mature attitude towards guns and the Right Keep to and Bear them is my personal litmus test.
In my experience, people who cannot be trusted to uphold the Second Amendment can be trusted with very little else.
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Sherrod Brown is one of the most extreme leftists in the Democratic Party. He was my US rep. several years ago when his district included Geauga County. I paid very close attention to the way he voted. He supports any and all anti-second amendment laws, pushes socialist programs, and seeks to raise taxes, especially taxes for the "rich" (also known as anybody that has a job).
Other than that he's great.
Other than that he's great.
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Whoa! Thanks for the heads up! I lived up in Geauga Co. till I left for the USAF and forgot all about him. So---we're basically stuck with the RINO, huh?
Sounds like this fits Brown to a T...In my experience, people who cannot be trusted to uphold the Second Amendment can be trusted with very little else.
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Sherrod Brown has a grade of "F" from the NRA & GOA! His wife is Connie Shultz, a liberal writer for the Cleveland Plain Dealer. They both hate guns, and hate people who own them.
There is a Dem from the Cincinatti area challenging him for the nomination. I forgot his name,(Hackett?) but he's a Marine Reservist w/ one tour in Iraq. I read a rumor that he has a Ohio CCW permit.
I intend to register as a Dem, and vote for Brown's opponant in the primary.
Then, considering DeWiner, I'll vote Libertarian in the election.
There is a Dem from the Cincinatti area challenging him for the nomination. I forgot his name,(Hackett?) but he's a Marine Reservist w/ one tour in Iraq. I read a rumor that he has a Ohio CCW permit.
I intend to register as a Dem, and vote for Brown's opponant in the primary.
Then, considering DeWiner, I'll vote Libertarian in the election.
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Good idea. I intend to do the same.JU-87 wrote: I intend to register as a Dem, and vote for Brown's opponant in the primary.
For me a lot will depend on how things are looking toward the end of the campaign season. If things are really close, I may vote for the sorry Pubby, solely in order to keep Sherrod Brown out of office.JU-87 wrote:Then, considering DeWiner, I'll vote Libertarian in the election.
Talk about having to choose the less of two weevils...!
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No Way!
I am terrified of the "As bad as DeWine is, Brown is worse" reasoning.
It is time that republicans PUNISH bad republican representatives, regardless of who goes in their place. I will not put my worthy vote towards an unworthy candidate, and I will NOT vote for DeWine.
I would rather Brown look me in the face, confess that he's a moron and stab me in the heart than to have DeWine snicker at me, think he's smarter than me and can pull one over on me, and then stab me in the back.
I guess I'm one who just appreciates honesty. I won't sacrifice the message sent to the republican party by DeWine's rejection just for the sake of keeping Brown out of the Senate.
Sorry.
It is time that republicans PUNISH bad republican representatives, regardless of who goes in their place. I will not put my worthy vote towards an unworthy candidate, and I will NOT vote for DeWine.
I would rather Brown look me in the face, confess that he's a moron and stab me in the heart than to have DeWine snicker at me, think he's smarter than me and can pull one over on me, and then stab me in the back.
I guess I'm one who just appreciates honesty. I won't sacrifice the message sent to the republican party by DeWine's rejection just for the sake of keeping Brown out of the Senate.
Sorry.
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IANALY,
That is your right to make that choice. But just remember that congress is controlled by whichever party holds the majority. If enough people send a message to the republicans they will lose their majority. Then Harry Reid will run the Senate and Chuck Schumer will run the judiciary committee. You can kiss your rights goodbye and say hello to plenty of new gun control laws.
That is your right to make that choice. But just remember that congress is controlled by whichever party holds the majority. If enough people send a message to the republicans they will lose their majority. Then Harry Reid will run the Senate and Chuck Schumer will run the judiciary committee. You can kiss your rights goodbye and say hello to plenty of new gun control laws.
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Re: No Way!
I did that in 1992. George Bush, Sr. had been caught in a lie regarding Iran-Contra (it's true! the newspapers said so!), so I sent the Republicans a message and didn't vote for him. We ended up with eight years of Bill Clinton.IANALY wrote:II guess I'm one who just appreciates honesty. I won't sacrifice the message sent to the republican party by DeWine's rejection just for the sake of keeping Brown out of the Senate.
Next time I want to send a message, I'm gonna use Western Union...
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"Applying the standard that is well established in our case law, we hold that the Second Amendment right is fully applicable to the States." ~ McDonald v. Chicago
When your only tools are a hammer and sickle, every problem starts to look like too much freedom.
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Sorry
I won't be scared into voting for a traitor.
I fully understand that the consequences might be dire, but really, what's the difference between Diane Feinstein, sponsor of the Assault weapons ban, and Mike DeWine, sponsor of the Assault weapons ban?
There is no difference in my mind, except that one is honest with her constituents about being a liberal. At least those people can go home at night and know that they weren't tricked into voting for the person.
If the republican party can't present the voters of Ohio with a Republican candidate, then the answer is not just to send whomever they put in front of you back to Washington, it's to say NO, take that sub-par Cleveland-based, RINO, gun-hating crap back where it came from and until then vote for the third party.
Anyway, that's my opinion.
I fully understand that the consequences might be dire, but really, what's the difference between Diane Feinstein, sponsor of the Assault weapons ban, and Mike DeWine, sponsor of the Assault weapons ban?
There is no difference in my mind, except that one is honest with her constituents about being a liberal. At least those people can go home at night and know that they weren't tricked into voting for the person.
If the republican party can't present the voters of Ohio with a Republican candidate, then the answer is not just to send whomever they put in front of you back to Washington, it's to say NO, take that sub-par Cleveland-based, RINO, gun-hating crap back where it came from and until then vote for the third party.
Anyway, that's my opinion.
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Re: Sorry
There are two major differences:IANALY wrote:I won't be scared into voting for a traitor.
I fully understand that the consequences might be dire, but really, what's the difference between Diane Feinstein, sponsor of the Assault weapons ban, and Mike DeWine, sponsor of the Assault weapons ban?
1) Feinstein is a real deal, fire breathing, anti-gun activist; DeWine is just a squishy weenie. Feinstein will work actively to curtail our firearms rights; DeWine will do nothing at all.
2) Feinstein is a Democrat. Should the Democrats ever regain their majority in the Senate (not an unthinkable proposition) things will be ever so much worse for us. As just an example, they would get to select the judges and the justices that they like, instead of only being able to hinder the ones that they don't.
Calling DeWine a traitor doesn't really make a lot of sense. A traitor against what? Against whom? He never really stood for anything anyhow. He made no particular campaign promises that he's broken. If anyone is a traitor, it is the likes of Feinstein and Schumer, who oppose the very principles of a constitutional republic.
Republicans are better than Democrats because Republicans don't do anything at all, whereas Democrats consciously and actively work against the public morals, the common defense, the constitution, and the principles of freedom and democracy.
TunnelRat
"Applying the standard that is well established in our case law, we hold that the Second Amendment right is fully applicable to the States." ~ McDonald v. Chicago
When your only tools are a hammer and sickle, every problem starts to look like too much freedom.
"Applying the standard that is well established in our case law, we hold that the Second Amendment right is fully applicable to the States." ~ McDonald v. Chicago
When your only tools are a hammer and sickle, every problem starts to look like too much freedom.