Wayne wrote:Did anyone notice that Petro said that we have a right to carry a concealed weapon on question #10
We have him on this, it is in writing now
Which means that something else in the "booklet" is wrong
....
My real problems are vehicular carry, restaurant carry, and CPZ's by State (BMV, ODNR) fiat or in places that
my taxes paid for.
My problem with Petro is, I think, that he could have trashed the whole vehicular carry mess with a few words: "In light of case law due to drug, weapons, and other contraband, if the Officer can clearly determine that a firearm
might be present, it's
visible." Just presenting your CHL or an MDT hit would be sufficient....
Restaurant carry's a hot button for the anti's - yet another way to restrict our safety. If somebody's going to shoot up a bar, he'll go out to the car and get the gun if he's left it there. Meantime, we sure can count on the signs to keep the problem folks out.... Like the Deputy Registrar in Youngstown yesterday....
Which leads to my view on CPZ's in general: If there's no armed security in the parking lot, and no "sterile entry" for
all users of the facility (i.e., metal detectors and armed guards), and no lockboxes inside the building for those who don't trust the guys watching the lot, then the sign's are invalid, regardless of whether it's "Joe's Supermarket" or a State Prison.... Particularly buildings "I" paid for....
I don't think we can force private businesses to put in metal detectors - that may be an intrusion we can't justify - but we can force the anti's in Columbus to clean up the ODNR, the Deputy Registrar's "leaders", and many hospitals.
We also need to think about schools. There's no sound reason to lock out CHL holders who wish to carry. Those signs really are doing a great job of protecting our kids, or the adults - students, staff, or faculty - who are there.
Finally, it should be forbidden (I think Petro could have done this for us) to post a parking lot....
I'm going to sit on the fence for a while....
Regards,