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"Ohioans for Gun Safety" Ballot initiative

Postby Bruenor » Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:28 pm

with $16 Mill in the coffers it's a pretty easy guess who some of their backers are.. Something to keep an eye on.

https://www.oathkeepers.org/little-know ... io-beyond/

“Proposed Ohio ballot initiative would require background checks for all gun sales,” NBC4i Columbus reported Thursday. “The newly formed group calling itself ‘Ohioans for Gun Safety’ says they want ‘common sense’ background checks to stem the number of gun deaths.” They’re looking at how they can make that happen politically through a ballot intiative.


The group’s IRS filing says “NJW is a grassroots org of volunteers and advocates who turn progressive ideas into action,” and its 2016 “end of year” assets is just short of $16M.

They can do some damage with that, above and beyond the $31K the NBC4i report says they’ve collected to date via “house parties.” Meaning gun owners had best be aware of their presence and intentions, and prepared to counter the anticipated disinformation campaign that will surely accompany their ballot initiative effort.
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Re: "Ohioans for Gun Safety" Ballot initiative

Postby cashman966 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 12:14 pm

Not to discount the possible future funding of this ballot initiative's supporters, it is the NATIONAL Council of Jewish Women with 16 million, not the local Cleveland chapter of NCJF and certainly not the misguided group Ohioans for Gun Safety. It looks like NCJF spends about 1 million a year on all of it's efforts nationwide, some of which, no doubt, will filter down to the ballot initiative. But I doubt it will be a significant amount.


I have no doubt that this group will catch the attention and money of Bloomberg and the Moms at some point, if not already, but to imply they already have 16 million at their disposal is not at all accurate.
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Re: "Ohioans for Gun Safety" Ballot initiative

Postby Curzyk » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:28 pm

Ballot initiatives are really risky. We don't want this to turn out like Washington's Initiative 594, which likely passed due to misleading text on the ballot and I can only suspect that it was accompanied by a misinformation campaign.

So what steps can be taken? How do you counter misinformation and misleading ballot text?
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Re: "Ohioans for Gun Safety" Ballot initiative

Postby WhyNot » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:50 am

If I remember the initiative process correctly does not the petitioner(s) have to gather ''xxx'' numbers of signatures based on previous governors election turnout, and then go to either the AG or legislative bodies, to attempt a law being written before pasting said initiative it to an actual ballot? At a minimum the AG checks the petition to initiate for invalid signatures, wording conflicts with existing laws etc.?

If so the trigger point for activism against this initiative in particular would be, unsatisfactory answer(s) from said officials (e.g. AG or OGA)
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Re: "Ohioans for Gun Safety" Ballot initiative

Postby cashman966 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:55 pm

WhyNot wrote:If I remember the initiative process correctly does not the petitioner(s) have to gather ''xxx'' numbers of signatures based on previous governors election turnout, and then go to either the AG or legislative bodies, to attempt a law being written before pasting said initiative it to an actual ballot? At a minimum the AG checks the petition to initiate for invalid signatures, wording conflicts with existing laws etc.?

If so the trigger point for activism against this initiative in particular would be, unsatisfactory answer(s) from said officials (e.g. AG or OGA)


From the AG site

INITIATED STATUTE

If a citizen feels that an issue is not addressed properly (or at all) in the Ohio Revised Code, he or she can follow the procedures outlined in the Ohio Constitution and Revised Code (below) to submit a proposed law (statute) to the people of Ohio for a statewide vote...
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