Issued in one county, renewing in another

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Was originally issued my CHL in Medina Co. and have renewed there once already. Have since moved (yes Medina Co. Sheriff was notified). CHL is due for renewal in a few months and started looking at the Miami Co. Sheriff's website and they are claiming that a copy of my training certificate is needed. How and why? I could very well be missing something but ORC 2923.125 (F) (1) says only that an application for renewal, a certification by me that I have reread the pamphlet prepared by the Ohio peace officer training commision, and renewal fee be submitted. It makes no mention of any additional requirements if you are renewing in a different county. So, just curious if he is pulling this additional requirement out of his butt. Seems a bit of overreach to make up requirements for documentation above and beyond what ORC defines as required.

Also, it is a pain to dig out the certificate as it is filed away and has not been unpacked yet after the move.
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WY_Not wrote:I could very well be missing something but ORC 2923.125 (F) (1) says only that an application for renewal, a certification by me that I have reread the pamphlet prepared by the Ohio peace officer training commision, and renewal fee be submitted. It makes no mention of any additional requirements if you are renewing in a different county.
You aren't missing anything, that's how it is supposed to work.
WY_Not wrote:So, just curious if he is pulling this additional requirement out of his butt.
Well, the ORC has changed - you used to have to do that for your 2nd renewal as I understand it, but no longer. It is possible they just haven't updated their website. I'd call them and see what they say, then reference the ORC change if they say it is still required.
WY_Not wrote:Seems a bit of overreach to make up requirements for documentation above and beyond what ORC defines as required.
It would be - and they cannot legally do that. If they actually do require anything beyond what the ORC says, your choices are to comply and renew in that county, use a neighboring county, or try to get them to change their policy.
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Sounds like a phone call is in order then. And since I have a few months, I'll put some effort into pushing the issue. Really don't want to go to downtown Dayton to renew with Montgomery Co. but at least they have enough common sense to say that your current CHL is prima facia evidence of having a certificate. Clark, Champagn, and Darke are just to far out of the way. Shelby I wouldn't trust with my info if you paid me.

They aren't saying it is required for all renewals or for your 2nd renewal. So, it is not that it is out of date. The website says that the certificate is required if renewing in Miami and your issuing county was elsewhere. If issuing was Miami and renewing, no certificate required.

A pity they can't all be as friendly, courteous, and professional as Medina County here in Ohio and Centre County over in PA.
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WY_Not wrote:They aren't saying it is required for all renewals or for your 2nd renewal. So, it is not that it is out of date. The website says that the certificate is required if renewing in Miami and your issuing county was elsewhere. If issuing was Miami and renewing, no certificate required.
Yeah, that's a different matter entirely. I don't see where the ORC allows that. Good luck with your efforts - and if you have troubles or questions be sure to post back, there are several very helpful folks here that might be able to lend a hand.
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Tell your Sheriff's CHL officer that R.C. 2923.125 B only applies to original applications, regardless of the adjacent county where the license was issued.

Then tell them that R.C. 2923.125 F is the section that applies to renewal licenses and does NOT require a competency certificate, even for a first renewal.

HB 495 is what changed that law and it took effect in March of 2013, so the Sheriff is a bit behind the times.

The FACT that it is a renewal, implies that you have a CHL. The fact that you HAVE a CHL implies that you had a competency certificate.

There is NO authorization for a Sheriff to require anything not specified in the Revised Code.

From experience, I know if you push an issue with the Franklin County Sheriff's CHL office, they send it to the county prosecutor for review.

If the county prosecutor still has questions, they can contact the AG's office.
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I got mine in Jefferson county and just did my renewal in Franklin. They treat it like a new applicant but charge renewal price.. All i had to do was show them my CHL from jefferson.. Got the call in 24 hrs it was ready. very easy except trying to find a decent parking spot not miles away.
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To the OP............ You won't have any problems in Miami Co. getting you CHL renewal done there............ They're quite friendly...

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