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Ohio Fair Managers Association presentation

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:20 pm
by xpd54
I was asked to do a presentation on firearm laws impacting fairs during the OFMA’s yearly conference. The session had a good turnout. Standing room only. I’d say 95% of the crowd raised their hands when I asked who had their CHL.

We talked about 9.68, preemption, lawsuits and how to avoid them and what fair boards can and cannot legally do in regards to legally armed citizens at fairs. I only had @50 minutes so I crammed a bunch of info in and answered some questions.

There were quite a few that were interested in finding out how to change the rules (under SB 199 changes) so they can allow carry into fair buildings.

I’ve been asked to come back next year to speak again.

Re: Ohio Fair Managers Association presentation

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:38 pm
by Javelin Man
Well done and thank you for presenting the side of legal carrying.

Re: Ohio Fair Managers Association presentation

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:13 am
by Brian D.
Great work! I hope they act on keeping that signage down all across Ohio. Maybe they should just toss the things away and not ever order more?

Re: Ohio Fair Managers Association presentation

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:15 am
by Chuck
Thank you!

Re: Ohio Fair Managers Association presentation

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:42 am
by AV8TOR
Well done xp

Re: Ohio Fair Managers Association presentation

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:45 pm
by xpd54
They have asked me to come back and speak again. If you know of specific counties that are still in violation of 9.68, please let me know. Also let me know if there have been any other fair related issues.

Thanks

Re: Ohio Fair Managers Association presentation

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:59 pm
by Chuck
What is the timing and are the forums the only way folks can contact you on this?

( I may be copying lots of private messages)

Thanks!

Re: Ohio Fair Managers Association presentation

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:32 pm
by xpd54
First weekend in January. I’ll happily supply my email via PM if you want.

Re: Ohio Fair Managers Association presentation

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:43 pm
by 3FULLMAGS+1
Brian D. wrote:Great work! I hope they act on keeping that signage down all across Ohio. Maybe they should just toss the things away and not ever order more?
You can "hope", but don't hold your breath.

"Tossing the signs" would be WAY to easy

Re: Ohio Fair Managers Association presentation

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:46 am
by Suckerspawn
xpd54 wrote:

There were quite a few that were interested in finding out how to change the rules (under SB 199 changes) so they can allow carry into fair buildings.
Could the Fair Managers designate the building as "Primarily Shelters" or "Primarily Restrooms"?

Re: Ohio Fair Managers Association presentation

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 9:52 pm
by schmieg
Suckerspawn wrote:
xpd54 wrote:

There were quite a few that were interested in finding out how to change the rules (under SB 199 changes) so they can allow carry into fair buildings.
Could the Fair Managers designate the building as "Primarily Shelters" or "Primarily Restrooms"?
First check the definitions as to whether the buildings fall into the government facility category. If not, only removal of the signs is necessary.

Re: Ohio Fair Managers Association presentation

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:40 pm
by Chuck
xpd54 wrote:First weekend in January. I’ll happily supply my email via PM if you want.
I put it on Facebook and we have about a half dozen in eight hours.

So go ahead and PM that email address if you want

Re: Ohio Fair Managers Association presentation

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:10 am
by xpd54
Chuck wrote:
xpd54 wrote:First weekend in January. I’ll happily supply my email via PM if you want.
I put it on Facebook and we have about a half dozen in eight hours.

So go ahead and PM that email address if you want
PM sent

Re: Ohio Fair Managers Association presentation

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:14 am
by xpd54
The presentation went well. I had quite a few discussions with fair board members who were interested in getting CCW approved in the fair buildings as well. All in all, the folks who attended the presentation appeared to be pro gun folks. There were a couple of fairs that have already approved CCW in the buildings. I can’t remember which ones though. I talked to a lot of people.

I’ll be honest though, while updating the presentation I have come to believe that the new version of 2923.1212 is worse than what we had before. The new version says they must post signs “in the premises” and does not specifically say on the buildings. Well, “premises” used elsewhere in the ORC includes the whole property, not just the buildings.
...shall post in one or more conspicuous locations “in the premises” a sign....
I think the current version of the law does a better job of specifying exactly where the signs should go.

And yes, I think the whole signage thing is stupid and should go away.

Re: Ohio Fair Managers Association presentation

Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 9:22 am
by 3FULLMAGS+1
Just to bring this discussion up again, the Fair Board Assoc. should be made aware of the changes in law, (not that it's OUR job to tell them), sos they don't get sued over their signage and or policies, now that it's worth taking them to court.

I will be contacting Stark co. this year about their signage on their fences.