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State Parks with ATV Trails

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:37 pm
by EdK
Having just purchased a side-by-side ATV, I was checking out various State owned ATV trails. While reading through the rules and regulations, I came across a restriction for guns stating they must be "unloaded and securly encased."
I thought we are OK on State property as long as we stay out of buildings other than restrooms.

Re: State Parks with ATV Trails

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:00 pm
by schmieg
EdK wrote:Having just purchased a side-by-side ATV, I was checking out various State owned ATV trails. While reading through the rules and regulations, I came across a restriction for guns stating they must be "unloaded and securly encased."
I thought we are OK on State property as long as we stay out of buildings other than restrooms.

You are, unless you are in an ATV. Whether this regulation will survive a court challenge is unknown.

Re: State Parks with ATV Trails

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:55 am
by WhyNot
What happens if the ATV is licensed for roads, turn signals lights etc.?

Re: State Parks with ATV Trails

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:02 am
by Brian D.
We've had this conundrum since 2004 when CH licensing first passed, correct? Maybe we take a big bucket of money to Columbus the pols can fix it for us.

Re: State Parks with ATV Trails

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:14 am
by Face
WhyNot wrote:What happens if the ATV is licensed for roads, turn signals lights etc.?


They must be "off road" licensed for state (and maybe) Federal trails as well.

FWIW - no state parks have ATV trails , that I know of, they are all State Forests.

Re: State Parks with ATV Trails

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:38 am
by djthomas
schmieg wrote:You are, unless you are in an ATV. Whether this regulation will survive a court challenge is unknown.
Oh it will easily survive. It's merely restating state law which specifies that carrying a loaded firearm on a variety of special vehicles is an unclassified misdemeanor with no exception for anybody (law enforcement, CHL, land owner, etc). I've pointed this out here and to pols but nobody seems to care. Since I neither own nor desire to own one of these vehicles I gave up caring too :) ORC 4519.40

Re: State Parks with ATV Trails

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:43 am
by BB62
djthomas wrote:
schmieg wrote:You are, unless you are in an ATV. Whether this regulation will survive a court challenge is unknown.
Oh it will easily survive. It's merely restating state law which specifies that carrying a loaded firearm on a variety of special vehicles is an unclassified misdemeanor with no exception for anybody (law enforcement, CHL, land owner, etc). I've pointed this out here and to pols but nobody seems to care. Since I neither own nor desire to own one of these vehicles I gave up caring too :) ORC 4519.40

Thanks for the ORC link, but I have to ask "How so, unless one is hunting?"

"(5) While transporting any firearm, bow, or other implement for hunting, that is not unloaded and securely encased;"

Re: State Parks with ATV Trails

PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:41 pm
by troy bilt
BB62 wrote:
djthomas wrote:
schmieg wrote:You are, unless you are in an ATV. Whether this regulation will survive a court challenge is unknown.
Oh it will easily survive. It's merely restating state law which specifies that carrying a loaded firearm on a variety of special vehicles is an unclassified misdemeanor with no exception for anybody (law enforcement, CHL, land owner, etc). I've pointed this out here and to pols but nobody seems to care. Since I neither own nor desire to own one of these vehicles I gave up caring too :) ORC 4519.40

Thanks for the ORC link, but I have to ask "How so, unless one is hunting?"

"(5) While transporting any firearm, bow, or other implement for hunting, that is not unloaded and securely encased;"



Thats exactly what I was thinking when I read it. Implement of hunting is not what I carry on my hip for protection.

Re: State Parks with ATV Trails

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:57 am
by Suckerspawn
Hunting with handguns is legal in Ohio. What you carry on your hip is legal for hunting coyotes 24/7 except maybe during deer gun season.

Re: State Parks with ATV Trails

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:25 pm
by tracker 6
Suckerspawn wrote:Hunting with handguns is legal in Ohio. What you carry on your hip is legal for hunting coyotes 24/7 except maybe during deer gun season.

Unless you are carrying concealed. :roll:

Re: State Parks with ATV Trails

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:22 am
by OhioPaints
As mentioned earlier, no state parks with ATV trails but some state and national forests. Pike State Forest (25mi SE of Hillsboro) has an ATV trail but I believe ATV width is limited to 48" or so. IOW, no side-by-sides.

Wayne National Forest has several ATV trails in southern and SE Ohio. I do not know what the width limitations are.