Just **thrown off** Cincinnati bus while legally carrying

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Response from SORTA/Metro!

Postby BB62 » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:04 pm

Darryl Haley, Executive Vice President of SORTA/Metro, sent me this e-mail at about 3:30 today:

Subject: Request for Information (huh?)

Mr. Smith,

Thank you for bringing this incident to our attention. Please know that we are currently in the process of reviewing our policies regarding weapons on SORTA/Metro property to ensure compliance with state law. In addition, as part of our continuing training of all of our employees, we will ensure that our employees are aware of these state laws and how to properly handle these incidents in the future.

Thank you,
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My reply

Postby BB62 » Thu Oct 20, 2016 4:05 pm

Subject: SORTA/Metro "weapons" policy + further conversations


Mr. Haley,

I appreciate your note, but it’s disappointing that 1) it includes no apology for my experience (described at length) on Tuesday, and 2) that you responded at greater length and detail to another person who merely inquired about SORTA/Metro’s policy regarding the open carrying of firearms (which is what I was doing) on buses.

Your response to that person was as follows:

“I was provided a copy of Customer Service’s below email response to you concerning SORTA’s policy on concealed carry in connection with Metro buses. While I believe customer service made a good faith effort to provide you with a quick response, the response was incomplete.

Therefore, I wanted to expand on that response and address your specific question regarding concealed firearms.

It is SORTA’s policy that, unless otherwise authorized by law, no weapon is allowed on SORTA’s buses. In addition, any authorized firearm or concealed handgun must be carried and transported in accordance with the law, including Ohio Revised Code §§ 2923.16 and 2923.126.

We are currently in the process of reviewing any policy regarding weapons on SORTA/Metro property to ensure compliance with applicable laws. We will be happy to provide you with the policy once that review is complete.”


Nonetheless, and as you may know, yesterday I had what I considered a productive conversation with Andrew Garth regarding SORTA/Metro’s previously unpublished, unposted, and evidently unknown to various levels of employees “weapons” policy.

I look forward to further productive conversations with Mr. Garth as well as members of your outside counsel, and hope for a mutually agreeable conclusion to those conversations.


Regards,

me
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Re: Just **thrown off** Cincinnati bus while legally carryin

Postby Brian D. » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:11 pm

You can bet Mr. Haley and the SORTA legal counsel have been burning up their phones and computers in communication with each other. For right now I'd say he is feeling like a man treading water in a thrashing vortex. If only we had his cell number so we could call and provide heartfelt reassurance that all will be well soon.
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Re: Just **thrown off** Cincinnati bus while legally carryin

Postby techguy85 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:29 pm

Can't they just say firearms must be carried with a license or unloaded in accordance with R.C. 2923.16 and be done with it?
COTA in Columbus has the same issues, me thinks.
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Re: Just **thrown off** Cincinnati bus while legally carryin

Postby Suckerspawn » Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:43 am

techguy85 wrote:Can't they just say firearms must be carried with a license or unloaded in accordance with R.C. 2923.16 and be done with it?
COTA in Columbus has the same issues, me thinks.

They need to done with it without saying anything.
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