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Butler County Metroparks
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:13 pm
by MyWifeSaidYes
These folks were contacted some time ago.
They changed their rules, but they didn't change them enough.
They also need some help with spell check.
http://www.butlercountymetroparks.org/d ... /rules.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Section 5: Firearms and Weapons
1545.09 5a
No person, except Park Rangers or other law enforcement officers, shall, within a Park building, carry or be possessed of firearms of any description or other dangerous ordinances, or any air rifle, slingshot, missile throwing device, switchblade, hunting knife, dagger, or metal knuckles.
1545.09 5b
No person, except a Park Ranger, another law enforcement officer, a person within a designated hunting area, a person within a Board designated target range, or a person specifically authorized in writing by the Executive Director or his or her designee shall carry or possess a firearm of any description, air rifle, slingshot, bow, crossbow, rocket, missile throwing device, or hunting knife within a Park unless said devise is a handgun and said person possess a valid Ohio Concealed Carry Permit.
1545.09 5c
No person, except a Park Ranger, another law enforcement officer, a person hunting in a designated hunting area, a person shooting in a designated target range, or a person specifically authorized in writing by the Executive Director or his or her designee, shall discharge any firearm, firework or explosive substance, or air rifle within or into a park. Further, no person shall discharge a weapon within a designated hunting area or target range unless:
(1) such person is hunting or firing within an area designated for such activity by the Board; and
(2) such person if hunting, possesses a valid MetroParks special permit for hunting issued by the Executive Director or his or her designee; and
(3) such person if hunting, possesses all Ohio licenses, permits, and/or stamps as required under Ohio Division of Wildlife regulations; and
(4) such person if hunting, possesses only those weapons permitted under Ohio Division of Wildlife regulations.
Re: Butler County Metroparks
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:37 pm
by fyrfytr310
Close but no cigar... I OC somewhat frequently in their parks and have yet to be hassled. That said, this language has got to go. Do you have the appropriate contact info?
Re: Butler County Metroparks
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:31 pm
by tbrew85
I sent the following email....On April 7th 2012
To the Board of Park Commissioners:
Jonathan R. Granville
Gregory T. Amend
Edward L. Dwyer
Cynamon Trokhan
I was reading the Rules and Regulations posted on the Metroparks website. One rule in particular caught my eye. Specifically, section 5, Firearms and Weapons; 1545.09 5b states that firearms are prohibited unless (among other exemptions) being carried by Concealed Handgun License holders.
The wording of this rule has been a common mistake made by park districts and other government entities in an attempt to comply with Concealed Carry laws. While it is true that Concealed Handgun License holders cannot be prohibited from carrying their firearms in parks, it is also true that people without licenses who lawfully carry their firearms openly also cannot be prohibited. As such, this rule is in violation of ORC 9.68 because the way the rule is worded would prohibit the lawful “open carry” of firearms in the parks.
According to the dates listed on the Rules and Regulations, this was "Authorized and approved by Board of Park Commissioners Resolution No. 50.08. Date Approved: May 13, 2008. Effective June 1, 2008". The relevant ORC section has an effective date of March 14, 2007.
If you have any questions about this, I would be happy to discuss it with you.
Sincerely,
Tbrew85
I got a pleasant reply from Mr Granville but I'm having trouble finding it.
Re: Butler County Metroparks
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:03 am
by gfrlaser
I got a pleasant reply from Mr Granville but I'm having trouble finding it.
What??
Re: Butler County Metroparks
Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:16 am
by tbrew85
gfrlaser wrote:I got a pleasant reply from Mr Granville but I'm having trouble finding it.
What??
He answered me pretty quick, thanked me for pointing it out, And that it would be changed, if I recall correctly. I just can't find the email
Notice that mine was sent in 2012. I don't know why I can find mine, but not his reply.
Re: Butler County Metroparks
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:54 pm
by davcar45
This is still incorrect on the website as of Dec 1, 2014.
http://www.butlercountymetroparks.org/d ... /rules.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; section 5
Re: Butler County Metroparks
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:36 pm
by Brian D.
ORC 9.68 has always lacked genuine, enforceable "teeth" to get things done at all, much less in anything like a timely manner.
Re: Butler County Metroparks
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 6:44 pm
by Brian D.
It appears to me that ex-OFCC member "color of law" has put an end to the illegal posting and rules of Butler County Metroparks once and for all. Of late he has further pursued his inquiries with the parks and demanded they change those policies to put them in compliance with ORC 9.68. They seem to have relented.
Re: Butler County Metroparks
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:07 pm
by 3FULLMAGS+1
Brian D. wrote:It appears to me that ex-OFCC member "color of law" has put an end to the illegal posting and rules of Butler County Metroparks once and for all. Of late he has further pursued his inquiries with the parks and demanded they change those policies to put them in compliance with ORC 9.68. They seem to have relented.
Yes, CoL can be relentless when he wants to be!
Looks like his "efforts" paid off!
Re: Butler County Metroparks
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:06 am
by BB62
3FULLMAGS+1 wrote:Brian D. wrote:It appears to me that ex-OFCC member "color of law" has put an end to the illegal posting and rules of Butler County Metroparks once and for all. Of late he has further pursued his inquiries with the parks and demanded they change those policies to put them in compliance with ORC 9.68. They seem to have relented.
Yes, CoL can be relentless when he wants to be!
Looks like his "efforts" paid off!
Details here, for informational purposes and for those aspiring to similar levels of greatness:
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