Fulton Co. Fair
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This sub-forum is strictly for the purpose of submitting of, and status updates related to, ORC 9.68 compliance. This could mean park bans, open carry bans, or anything that is a compliance issue. Note the format in which original threads were created. We'll track each individual case here and post updates if assistance is needed, etc. You may start a new thread here to notify us of a non-compliant scenario. Please try to research contact information for each city, village, etc, Email, fax, and postal addresses are great. Digital photos of infractions (Signs) are ideal. With limited exceptions this is NOT a discussion forum.
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This sub-forum is strictly for the purpose of submitting of, and status updates related to, ORC 9.68 compliance. This could mean park bans, open carry bans, or anything that is a compliance issue. Note the format in which original threads were created. We'll track each individual case here and post updates if assistance is needed, etc. You may start a new thread here to notify us of a non-compliant scenario. Please try to research contact information for each city, village, etc, Email, fax, and postal addresses are great. Digital photos of infractions (Signs) are ideal. With limited exceptions this is NOT a discussion forum.
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Fulton Co. Fair
So the fair is starting soon. I am a friend on they're facebook page they asked if everyone was ready for th fair and had any questions .. Soooooo I asked If firearms were allowed. and of course they responded.. NEVER , NOPE, NOWAY, NOHOW.. it will be posted.. Now I cant find any info on who owns the property.. or any info what so ever.. does anyone know or have info
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Re: Fulton Co. Fair
Whoops, broke rule #1...
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The following is a list of children's books that didn't quite make it to the printing press...
1. What Is That Dog Doing to That Other Dog?
2. Daddy Drinks Because You Cry
3. You Were An Accident
4. Bi-Curious George
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Re: Fulton Co. Fair
You can carry on the fair grounds, just not in the buildings
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Re: Fulton Co. Fair
From there most recent state audit
Fairgrounds are owned by an entity called FULTON COUNTY FAIR GROUND but the county commissioners are listed as the tax address name, and the land use is classified as 620 - EXEMPT PROP OWN BY COUNTIES
So any blanket posting of the grounds would seem to fly in the face of ORC 9.68.
A. Description of the Entity
The constitution and laws of the State of Ohio establish the rights and privileges of the Fulton County Agricultural Society, Fulton County, Ohio (the Society), as a body corporate and politic.
Fairgrounds are owned by an entity called FULTON COUNTY FAIR GROUND but the county commissioners are listed as the tax address name, and the land use is classified as 620 - EXEMPT PROP OWN BY COUNTIES
So any blanket posting of the grounds would seem to fly in the face of ORC 9.68.
Ignorant or Stupid, I'm not sure which is worse. If someone were stupid, at least they'd have an excuse for all the dumb things they say.
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IANAL and neither are most people on this board, its just shows more with some than others.
Pass the Peace Pipe I need another hit
IANAL and neither are most people on this board, its just shows more with some than others.
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Re: Fulton Co. Fair
YES I Know .. I wanted to see what they said.. I suppose the FB page is run by some highJavelin Man wrote:Whoops, broke rule #1...
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Re: Fulton Co. Fair
I just sent this email to the Fulton County Fair Board:
I'll let you know if I hear from them.Agricultural Societies are created under Ohio Revised Code 1711. This statute allows for a COUNTY or an INDEPENDANT ag society to be established.
When choosing to form as an INDEPENDANT organization, this does NOT make that organization a privte entity. An ag society that manages a fairground or creates a fair board to do so, is a political subdivision of the state of Ohio. In other words, ALL ag societies created under ORC 1711 are public entities. See Greene Cty. Agricultural Soc. v. Liming (2000), 89 Ohio St.3d 551.(http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/rod/docs/ ... io-486.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
As all public entities are subject to the General Laws of the state of Ohio, ag societies must comply with ORC 9.68 regarding rules and regulations concerning firearms.
Under Ohio law, an ag society or fair board may post a "No Guns" sign on any building that is not primarily a rest area, shelter, restroom or parking facility. An ag society may NOT post any open area.
ALL ag societies formed under ORC 1711 are bodies corporate and politic, and may sue and be sued. ORC 9.68 allows for a court to award costs and attorney fees should your organization be sued.
Lawsuits under ORC 9.68 are easily winnable, but not profitable.
Because the ag society is earning money (such as admission fees) while violating a state law, a plaintiff may have a valid reason to ask for punative damages to be awarded. A reasonable amount to ask for might be an amount equal to the gate admission fees for the last seven years (since ORC 9.68 has been in effect).
I would ask the fair board and the ag society to IMMEDIATELY remove any and all signage that restricts the legal open carry or licensed concealed carry of firearms within the fairgrounds.
Please contact me when you have removed the signs, or with a reason for why you have not.
Thanks!
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Re: Fulton Co. Fair
That letter sounds very generic, one that any of our members could copy and use in their County as necessary.
Good letter.
Good letter.
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Re: Fulton Co. Fair
Excellent letter! Of course, the board will meet about once a month, form a committee, run rulings past their attorney, regroup, change the directors on the board at the next election during the fair, change committee members, restart the procedures and hope you forgot about everything before they send a response in 2017.
Famous last words: "I just drank What?!-Socrates
bruh bruh is slang for "complete and total moron" -sodbuster95
The following is a list of children's books that didn't quite make it to the printing press...
1. What Is That Dog Doing to That Other Dog?
2. Daddy Drinks Because You Cry
3. You Were An Accident
4. Bi-Curious George
bruh bruh is slang for "complete and total moron" -sodbuster95
The following is a list of children's books that didn't quite make it to the printing press...
1. What Is That Dog Doing to That Other Dog?
2. Daddy Drinks Because You Cry
3. You Were An Accident
4. Bi-Curious George
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Re: Fulton Co. Fair
Has someone got this, yet? Or shall I start my "annoy with facts until they figure it out" contretemps?
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Re: Fulton Co. Fair
I just sent the letter after business hours on Tuesday. The Ag Societies/Fair Boards seem so informally run that I would give them a week to respond.
Jav. Man, if it came to a lawsuit, one might be able to get an injunction to keep the signs down. Without that, you're right. Until 9.68 gets teeth, this will repeat indefinitely.
Jav. Man, if it came to a lawsuit, one might be able to get an injunction to keep the signs down. Without that, you're right. Until 9.68 gets teeth, this will repeat indefinitely.
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Re: Fulton Co. Fair
Fulton County Prosecutor's Office says they cannot talk about it, I need to retain my own council... Refused to say anything else.