Trumbull County Parks
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This sub-forum is strictly for the purpose of submitting of, and status updates related to, ORC 9.68 compliance. This could mean park bans, open carry bans, or anything that is a compliance issue. Note the format in which original threads were created. We'll track each individual case here and post updates if assistance is needed, etc. You may start a new thread here to notify us of a non-compliant scenario. Please try to research contact information for each city, village, etc, Email, fax, and postal addresses are great. Digital photos of infractions (Signs) are ideal. With limited exceptions this is NOT a discussion forum.
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This sub-forum is strictly for the purpose of submitting of, and status updates related to, ORC 9.68 compliance. This could mean park bans, open carry bans, or anything that is a compliance issue. Note the format in which original threads were created. We'll track each individual case here and post updates if assistance is needed, etc. You may start a new thread here to notify us of a non-compliant scenario. Please try to research contact information for each city, village, etc, Email, fax, and postal addresses are great. Digital photos of infractions (Signs) are ideal. With limited exceptions this is NOT a discussion forum.
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Trumbull County Parks
Greetings all,
I would like some assistance. My wife and I were hiking in a new Trumbull County Park just dedicated this year in May. One of the posted rules is No firearms allowed. My questions are..can a County park post this? There is only a porta pot..no restroom...If they can't post which section of the ORC covers this??? I would like to contact them if they legally can't keep those of us with our CHL from carrying while in the park...thanks ...Greg
I would like some assistance. My wife and I were hiking in a new Trumbull County Park just dedicated this year in May. One of the posted rules is No firearms allowed. My questions are..can a County park post this? There is only a porta pot..no restroom...If they can't post which section of the ORC covers this??? I would like to contact them if they legally can't keep those of us with our CHL from carrying while in the park...thanks ...Greg
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Re: Trumbull County Parks
If it is indeed a County Park, then the sign needs to come down.
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Re: Trumbull County Parks
I just spoke with the parks director, either I read the sign wrong or the posting is open to interpatation..anyway concealed carry legal in all parks..some parks do not allow hunting so they decided to post "no weapons" kinda unclear but we are all good to go...Greg
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Well, but I believe Open Carry is also legal in all parks. Wonder what his reaction to THAT is.....greg l wrote:I just spoke with the parks director, either I read the sign wrong or the posting is open to interpatation..anyway concealed carry legal in all parks..some parks do not allow hunting so they decided to post "no weapons" kinda unclear but we are all good to go...Greg
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Re: Trumbull County Parks
open carry or concealed carry is allowed in all state and county parks if it is a private park it is up to the owner to post
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Weapons ARE allowed.
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I don't know about weapons, but firearms are allowed.
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Re: Trumbull County Parks
Zachary Svette, Operations Director, opines that CC is allowed, but he doesn't know what OC is... I told him, but he's yet to get back to me... (takes him about a day an e-mail)
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Just got this back...
I call BS, obviously, but I'm too slammed at work to form a good reply right now...Dear Brian
My legal counsel just got back to me on the legality of open carry. As it pertains to MetroParks concealed carry is fine and open carry is not.
Sorry for the delay wanted to make sure I was giving you the best answer I could.
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I don't get that reply. How can one be legal and the other not?
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Re: Trumbull County Parks
Some stores, such as Fin, only allow discreet carry... that's private, they can do what they want...
I think that there are places that you can only carry legally with a CHL, but that doesn't mean you HAVE to carry discreetly. I cannot think of any instances in the State of Ohio where LEGALLY CC is okay, but OC is not...
I think that there are places that you can only carry legally with a CHL, but that doesn't mean you HAVE to carry discreetly. I cannot think of any instances in the State of Ohio where LEGALLY CC is okay, but OC is not...
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I agree. Under R.C. 9.68, they cannot make that distinction unless they can point to a state or federal statute which allows them to make that distinction.BriKuz wrote:Some stores, such as Fin, only allow discreet carry... that's private, they can do what they want...
I think that there are places that you can only carry legally with a CHL, but that doesn't mean you HAVE to carry discreetly. I cannot think of any instances in the State of Ohio where LEGALLY CC is okay, but OC is not...
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Open carry is a First Amendment exercise.
-- Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon
"Remember that protecting our gun rights still boils down to keeping a majority in the electorate, and that our daily activities can have the impact of being ambassadors for the gun culture ..."
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Open carry is a First Amendment exercise.
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Re: Trumbull County Parks
The sign on the door at the middleburg fin says that brandishing a gun in ohio is a crime,.... so they don't like open carry in there store i was going to call them on that,.... but thought about it and never said anything because the no gun sign may go up next.Werz wrote:I agree. Under R.C. 9.68, they cannot make that distinction unless they can point to a state or federal statute which allows them to make that distinction.BriKuz wrote:Some stores, such as Fin, only allow discreet carry... that's private, they can do what they want...
I think that there are places that you can only carry legally with a CHL, but that doesn't mean you HAVE to carry discreetly. I cannot think of any instances in the State of Ohio where LEGALLY CC is okay, but OC is not...
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Re: Trumbull County Parks
Have open carried there on several occasions. Nary a word was said.steves 50de wrote:The sign on the door at the middleburg fin says that brandishing a gun in ohio is a crime,.... so they don't like open carry in there store i was going to call them on that,.... but thought about it and never said anything because the no gun sign may go up next.Werz wrote:I agree. Under R.C. 9.68, they cannot make that distinction unless they can point to a state or federal statute which allows them to make that distinction.BriKuz wrote:Some stores, such as Fin, only allow discreet carry... that's private, they can do what they want...
I think that there are places that you can only carry legally with a CHL, but that doesn't mean you HAVE to carry discreetly. I cannot think of any instances in the State of Ohio where LEGALLY CC is okay, but OC is not...
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem." - Ronald Reagan
"When democracy turns to tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote." ~ Mike Vanderboegh
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Can you get an image of that sign? The Ashland Fin just has a sign that says CHL holders are welcome to carry a loaded firearm as long as it is remains concealed. Naturally, anyone can bring in an openly carried firearm, unloaded and with an open action.steves 50de wrote:The sign on the door at the middleburg fin says that brandishing a gun in ohio is a crime,.... so they don't like open carry in there store i was going to call them on that,.... but thought about it and never said anything because the no gun sign may go up next.Werz wrote:I agree. Under R.C. 9.68, they cannot make that distinction unless they can point to a state or federal statute which allows them to make that distinction.BriKuz wrote:Some stores, such as Fin, only allow discreet carry... that's private, they can do what they want...
I think that there are places that you can only carry legally with a CHL, but that doesn't mean you HAVE to carry discreetly. I cannot think of any instances in the State of Ohio where LEGALLY CC is okay, but OC is not...
I think most people understand that the rules at The Fin and at gun shows are not intended to be anti-gun, but rather, are an attempt to idiot-proof those places. That's not always successful.
And, like it or not, some of the people who say, "But why are they applying that rule to me?!" are exactly the type of idiots they are trying to intercept.
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life."
-- Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon
"Remember that protecting our gun rights still boils down to keeping a majority in the electorate, and that our daily activities can have the impact of being ambassadors for the gun culture ..."
-- BobK
Open carry is a First Amendment exercise.
-- Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon
"Remember that protecting our gun rights still boils down to keeping a majority in the electorate, and that our daily activities can have the impact of being ambassadors for the gun culture ..."
-- BobK
Open carry is a First Amendment exercise.