CC in Fairs

[JSLACK7851]

Check out 2005-15:

http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Lega ... ons?page=4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[BobK]

Nice find.

Jim Petro was a good AG.

[MuzzleReport]

That in combination with 9.68 would seem to lock things up for all fairgrounds on land owned by the auditor or county commissioners.

[JSLACK7851]

Nice find.

Jim Petro was a good AG.

I can't take credit, one of the guys on OCA posted it, but it sure looks intriguing.

[Werz]

That in combination with 9.68 would seem to lock things up for all fairgrounds on land owned by the auditor or county commissioners.

Unfortunately, no. In many cases, the fairgrounds are leased to the county agricultural society for the purpose of the county fair. The question then becomes whether a county agricultural society is a private entity, and thus, is permitted to post signs under RC 2923.126(C)(3)(a), or whether the a county agricultural society is a public entity, and thus, is subject to the same rules as the county commissioners.

In Wayne County, the latter conclusion was reached. Not all county prosecuting attorneys may agree with that conclusion, and that is a subject upon which the Ohio Attorney General has not spoken.

Also, that opinion does not answer the question whether a person may openly carry a firearm into a government building which is not subject to separate prohibitions (e.g., schools, courthouses), despite the wording of the signs which the controlling entities are required to post under RC 2923.1212. At least one astute peace officer noticed that conflict and asked me for an answer; I told him that it was still a mystery.

[JmE]

That in combination with 9.68 would seem to lock things up for all fairgrounds on land owned by the auditor or county commissioners.

Unfortunately, no. In many cases, the fairgrounds are leased to the county agricultural society for the purpose of the county fair. The question then becomes whether a county agricultural society is a private entity, and thus, is permitted to post signs under RC 2923.126(C)(3)(a), or whether the a county agricultural society is a public entity, and thus, is subject to the same rules as the county commissioners.

My threads and posts are wordy and ramble horribly (Stu's evil cousin) but if one looks at some of them one might find a compelling argument with the combination of attributes that an AG society has in the ORC. There is a list of things that, IMHO, make a decent argument for them being subject to 9.68.

Fortunately, I can't find a lease agreement anywhere in the county records between my county and our AG society. Additionally, if the county and the AG society lease or purchase a property together, an agreement has to be written up per the ORC, IIRC. So far, I've found nothing in the county records here.

[JSLACK7851]

This was brought up by one of the guys on OCA, he addressed the county commissioners and they got their opinion from the State AG:

http://thehighlandsun.com/main.asp?Sect ... leID=14813" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Their is a article about a war memorial first, and then the story about the county fair. One more fair, good to carry.

[JSLACK7851]

It seems that our man in OCA put together a Power Point Presentation for the County Commissioners in Highland County. I'd love for the compliance coordinator here to see it, alas, I read somewhere he gave up on county fairs.

I haven't been able to up load it here or into Photobucket for public viewing, or if someone could tell me how to up load it here. Maybe someone familiar with PP could change a few words, (county names), and we could start spreading this great work around to other counties. It is available on OCA for those of you who want to work on this project, contact me, I'll add your name.

I feel this would be a great undertaking, worthy of the few that actually participate in activism. The county commissioners (or whatever form of govt.) are elected officials, who are sworn to uphold the Constitution and Ohio law. Once presented, I believe they will have no recourse but to stop posting our fairs here in Ohio.

After viewing this presentation, I was just blown away.

[pleasantguywhopacks]

It seems that our man in OCA put together a Power Point Presentation for the County Commissioners in Highland County. I'd love for the compliance coordinator here to see it, alas, I read somewhere he gave up on county fairs.

I haven't been able to up load it here or into Photobucket for public viewing, or if someone could tell me how to up load it here. Maybe someone familiar with PP could change a few words, (county names), and we could start spreading this great work around to other counties. It is available on OCA for those of you who want to work on this project, contact me, I'll add your name.

I feel this would be a great undertaking, worthy of the few that actually participate in activism. The county commissioners (or whatever form of govt.) are elected officials, who are sworn to uphold the Constitution and Ohio law. Once presented, I believe they will have no recourse but to stop posting our fairs here in Ohio.

After viewing this presentation, I was just blown away.

You would have to get a host site like zshare and upload it there, then post the link here.

[JSLACK7851]

ZShare? http://www2.zshare.ma/z8u18zletqin/Fire ... _.ppt.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[JmE]

I'm not going to spam this everywhere here but I figured it belonged here as well in case someone missed it as it's buried in that long fair thread. (Details were posted there today.)

Highland County Fairgrounds is not longer posted. They had asked me about open carry and the buildings. I responded at the time that the law, as it read, only prohibited concealed carry.

I used the PowerPoint that JSlack7851 posted about. Thanks to all who helped and gave support.

[TunnelRat]

Nice work, thanks!