Wayne County Fair
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This sub-forum is strictly for the purpose of submitting of, and status updates related to, ORC 9.68 compliance. This could mean park bans, open carry bans, or anything that is a compliance issue. Note the format in which original threads were created. We'll track each individual case here and post updates if assistance is needed, etc. You may start a new thread here to notify us of a non-compliant scenario. Please try to research contact information for each city, village, etc, Email, fax, and postal addresses are great. Digital photos of infractions (Signs) are ideal. With limited exceptions this is NOT a discussion forum.
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This sub-forum is strictly for the purpose of submitting of, and status updates related to, ORC 9.68 compliance. This could mean park bans, open carry bans, or anything that is a compliance issue. Note the format in which original threads were created. We'll track each individual case here and post updates if assistance is needed, etc. You may start a new thread here to notify us of a non-compliant scenario. Please try to research contact information for each city, village, etc, Email, fax, and postal addresses are great. Digital photos of infractions (Signs) are ideal. With limited exceptions this is NOT a discussion forum.
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nitewolf
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Wayne County Fairgrounds
Does anyone know if the wayne county fairgrounds has a gun buster sign up? I'd like to go to the county fair this year but depending on if I'm allowed to carry there or not. Thanks for the help as always guys.
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Glock36fs
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Re: Wayne County Fairgrounds
Bump.
Does anyone know if it is legal to carry at the fair grounds there? Gonna head up there tomorrow morning for the first time. Do they serve alcohol? Would that make it an automatic CPZ? Thanks.
Does anyone know if it is legal to carry at the fair grounds there? Gonna head up there tomorrow morning for the first time. Do they serve alcohol? Would that make it an automatic CPZ? Thanks.
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Mustang380gal
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Re: Wayne County Fairgrounds
We haven't gone to the fair for a few years, but I don't remember anyone walking around with alcohol or beer. There were still "no carry" signs at the gate last time, but that was 2 or 3 years ago.
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Shreve Businessmen's Chicken barbecue is excellent!! If you haven't tried it, I suggest that. (By the creek, opposite of the grandstand in the shade. Look for the smoke.
)We're going tomorrow for a while, too.
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Werz
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Wayne County Fair
Posted at every entrance:
I didn't challenge it when I went in today. When I go back on Wednesday, it may be time for open carry.
I didn't challenge it when I went in today. When I go back on Wednesday, it may be time for open carry.
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"Remember that protecting our gun rights still boils down to keeping a majority in the electorate, and that our daily activities can have the impact of being ambassadors for the gun culture ..."
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MyWifeSaidYes
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Re: Wayne County Fair
I just sent this to the fair board and the county commissioners...
If they try a "private property" or "private entity" ploy, their last state audit describes the Wayne County Ag Society as:To whom it may concern-
I prefer to openly carry my handgun in a hip holster. I noticed the signs at the Wayne county fairgrounds disallowing firearms, whether openly carried or concealed.
I do not believe these signs are legal.
The signs are posted by the Wayne County Fair Board and claim authority under ORC 1711.31, but that law only gives an agricultural society (i.e. the Fair Board) control and management of the property. ORC 1711.31 does not allow the Fair Board to violate a general law of the state of Ohio, such as the state preemption of firearm laws under ORC 9.68.
In addition to allowing only federal and state laws to regulate firearms, ORC 9.68 also specifically directs a court to award costs and attorney fees in a lawsuit for any ordinance, rule or regulation that violates ORC 9.68.
Since the posted signs violate ORC 9.68, I am sure you will want to act quickly to remove those signs.
Thanks!
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September 9, 2012
There's that pesky "body politic" again.The Wayne County Agricultural Society, Wayne County, Ohio, (the Society) is a body corporate and politic established to exercise the rights and privileges conveyed to it by the constitution and laws of the State of Ohio.
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BB62
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Re: Wayne County Fair
Looks like you two hombres are not the only ones aware of Wayne County's policy.
This guy, and his family, was turned away, today!
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showt ... airgrounds" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This guy, and his family, was turned away, today!
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showt ... airgrounds" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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BriKuz
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Re: Wayne County Fair
Video is WAY too big, and i have no conversion codecs installed... should i post audio of the encounter, including the sheriff himself denying me access?
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BriKuz
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Re: Wayne County Fair
Can I post huge vid and audio here? I was turned away by several deputies and the Sheriff himself...
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BriKuz
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Re: Wayne County Fair
Audio:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B__tjI ... 2lxdU11cEU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Video:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B__tjI ... 0M0SENBY0k" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The sheriff shows at about 7:50 in the audio, and I was physically blocked from entering the queue to enter the fairgrounds... I (and my observing wife) felt very strongly that if we proceeded, I would be taken down and arrested... (Wife says one deputy was unsnapped with hand ready to draw, even though I made no threatening moves that I am aware of....)
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B__tjI ... 2lxdU11cEU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Video:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B__tjI ... 0M0SENBY0k" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The sheriff shows at about 7:50 in the audio, and I was physically blocked from entering the queue to enter the fairgrounds... I (and my observing wife) felt very strongly that if we proceeded, I would be taken down and arrested... (Wife says one deputy was unsnapped with hand ready to draw, even though I made no threatening moves that I am aware of....)
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BriKuz
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Re: Wayne County Fair
Mr. Lutz (Wayne County Prosecutor) just called me and said he is working on the situation... hopefully we can get a good resolution!
Thanks to everyone on this board and others who is working towards a resolution...
Thanks to everyone on this board and others who is working towards a resolution...
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Morne
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Re: Wayne County Fair
Dan is a good man.BriKuz wrote:Mr. Lutz (Wayne County Prosecutor) just called me and said he is working on the situation... hopefully we can get a good resolution!
Thanks to everyone on this board and others who is working towards a resolution...
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Werz
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Re: Wayne County Fair
As I noted on the OpenCarry.org board:BriKuz wrote:Mr. Lutz (Wayne County Prosecutor) just called me and said he is working on the situation... hopefully we can get a good resolution!
Thanks to everyone on this board and others who is working towards a resolution...
Relevant entities notified. Reactions pending.
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life."
-- Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon
"Remember that protecting our gun rights still boils down to keeping a majority in the electorate, and that our daily activities can have the impact of being ambassadors for the gun culture ..."
-- BobK
Open carry is a First Amendment exercise.
-- Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon
"Remember that protecting our gun rights still boils down to keeping a majority in the electorate, and that our daily activities can have the impact of being ambassadors for the gun culture ..."
-- BobK
Open carry is a First Amendment exercise.
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BriKuz
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Re: Wayne County Fair
Mr. Lutz just called and said the signs were coming down and going back up on the buildings! Thanks to all for the work, advice, and support!
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Werz
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Re: Wayne County Fair
Checked on the way home. The sign shown at the top of this thread was gone. I assume the others are, too.BriKuz wrote:Mr. Lutz just called and said the signs were coming down and going back up on the buildings! Thanks to all for the work, advice, and support!
"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life."
-- Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon
"Remember that protecting our gun rights still boils down to keeping a majority in the electorate, and that our daily activities can have the impact of being ambassadors for the gun culture ..."
-- BobK
Open carry is a First Amendment exercise.
-- Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon
"Remember that protecting our gun rights still boils down to keeping a majority in the electorate, and that our daily activities can have the impact of being ambassadors for the gun culture ..."
-- BobK
Open carry is a First Amendment exercise.
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MyWifeSaidYes
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Re: Wayne County Fair
Just talked to BriKuz.
He and family are at the fair, and the signs are down!
There are no signs posted on any buildings (yet?)
Many thanks to the good people at the Wayne County Prosecutor's office!
He and family are at the fair, and the signs are down!
There are no signs posted on any buildings (yet?)
Many thanks to the good people at the Wayne County Prosecutor's office!
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