ORC 9.68 compliance vs noncompliance

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This sub-forum is strictly for the purpose of submitting of, and status updates related to, ORC 9.68 compliance. This could mean park bans, open carry bans, or anything that is a compliance issue. Note the format in which original threads were created. We'll track each individual case here and post updates if assistance is needed, etc. You may start a new thread here to notify us of a non-compliant scenario. Please try to research contact information for each city, village, etc, Email, fax, and postal addresses are great. Digital photos of infractions (Signs) are ideal. With limited exceptions this is NOT a discussion forum.

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SteveOH wrote:Just wanted to thank you for posting this information. My village had posted signs prohibiting firearms in our parks and marina. I sent an e-mail to the Mayor and city council containing the information in this post. The mayor ran it by the solicitor (attorney) and the attorney provided an opinion agreeing with your position. As a result, the signs will be changed and concealed carry will be allowed in the parks.

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gfrlaser wrote:Steve... hopefully not ONLY concealed. Open as well?
I hope you're not waiting around for a reply from SteveOH:

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MyWifeSaidYes wrote:
gfrlaser wrote:Steve... hopefully not ONLY concealed. Open as well?
I hope you're not waiting around for a reply from SteveOH:

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Having a discussion with a cop friend regarding vehicle storage. My question goes like this...

Without a CHL, overnight in the driveway car storage... the gun is to be unloaded and in a container out of reach from the driver I believe while WITH CHL, its loaded, unloaded, and hanging off the rear view, correct?

And 9.68 takes away the local municipalities from changing, or beefing up this as it is a storage and or transporting issue covered in 9.68 correct?

A community CAN call their own shots with those not covered by a CHL right?
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gaptrick wrote:Having a discussion with a cop friend regarding vehicle storage. My question goes like this...

Without a CHL, overnight in the driveway car storage... the gun is to be unloaded and in a container out of reach from the driver I believe while WITH CHL, its loaded, unloaded, and hanging off the rear view, correct?

And 9.68 takes away the local municipalities from changing, or beefing up this as it is a storage and or transporting issue covered in 9.68 correct?

A community CAN call their own shots with those not covered by a CHL right?
You know of, and presumably have read 9.68, right?

Where do you get the idea that 9.68 only applies to those who possess a CHL, and/or that communities can call their own shots for such non-CHL holders?

(OH! One more thing: don't ask cops about the law)

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/gp9.68" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

9.68 Right to bear arms - challenge to law.

(A) The individual right to keep and bear arms, being a fundamental individual right that predates the United States Constitution and Ohio Constitution, and being a constitutionally protected right in every part of Ohio, the general assembly finds the need to provide uniform laws throughout the state regulating the ownership, possession, purchase, other acquisition, transport, storage, carrying, sale, or other transfer of firearms, their components, and their ammunition. Except as specifically provided by the United States Constitution, Ohio Constitution, state law, or federal law, a person, without further license, permission, restriction, delay, or process, may own, possess, purchase, sell, transfer, transport, store, or keep any firearm, part of a firearm, its components, and its ammunition.

(B) In addition to any other relief provided, the court shall award costs and reasonable attorney fees to any person, group, or entity that prevails in a challenge to an ordinance, rule, or regulation as being in conflict with this section.

(C) As used in this section:

(1) The possession, transporting, or carrying of firearms, their components, or their ammunition include, but are not limited to, the possession, transporting, or carrying, openly or concealed on a person's person or concealed ready at hand, of firearms, their components, or their ammunition.

(2) "Firearm" has the same meaning as in section 2923.11 of the Revised Code.

(D) This section does not apply to either of the following:

(1) A zoning ordinance that regulates or prohibits the commercial sale of firearms, firearm components, or ammunition for firearms in areas zoned for residential or agricultural uses;

(2) A zoning ordinance that specifies the hours of operation or the geographic areas where the commercial sale of firearms, firearm components, or ammunition for firearms may occur, provided that the zoning ordinance is consistent with zoning ordinances for other retail establishments in the same geographic area and does not result in a de facto prohibition of the commercial sale of firearms, firearm components, or ammunition for firearms in areas zoned for commercial, retail, or industrial uses.
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I don't know where Icame up with 9.68 having to do with CHL only... Sometimes my brain farts...

As there are no mandated storage laws on the books where it is required to lock and key it in a under seat vault or even bring it in the house with you, 9.68 protects the citizen from being charges with any city ord that might say one can't leave a loaded gun under the seat over night in a locked car
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gaptrick wrote:I don't know where Icame up with 9.68 having to do with CHL only... Sometimes my brain farts...

As there are no mandated storage laws on the books where it is required to lock and key it in a under seat vault or even bring it in the house with you, 9.68 protects the citizen from being charges with any city ord that might say one can't leave a loaded gun under the seat over night in a locked car


9.68 doesn't protect anyone from charges...9.68 prevents the city from HAVING such an ordinance under which to charge someone in the first place.

The fact that such an ordinance is ILLEGAL is what would protect someone who is charged under the ordinance.

Yes, it may be splitting hairs, but attorneys have lost cases by pursuing the wrong defense.

A city can regulate the USE of firearms, but not storage, not transport, not sale, purchase or trade, etc.
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As I told BB62 yesterday, darn glad the AUDIO portion isn't backwards! :lol:
The sheriff should of been made to stand there with him while he did it.
If played backwards I think it would sound exactly like the sheriff's comments, as portrayed in the opening posts, and also as played back via his subordinate staff.

To that point , and certainly the fair using a screwdri... 8) wirecutters to remove the sign(s) is very positive, is there still a remedy being sought for the sherif purposefully misguiding the fair staff?
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You meant to put your post in the other thread, right? Moderators, can we get some help here for WhyNot?

..If no, why not? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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WOW!

Yes , the fair debacle thread. Would appreciate a move :)

Between coffee #1 & 2. I thought I simply didn't hit the last post-it button.

I otherwise plead the 55th! hehe :mrgreen:
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WhyNot wrote:WOW!

Yes , the fair debacle thread. Would appreciate a move :)

Between coffee #1 & 2. I thought I simply didn't hit the last post-it button.

I otherwise plead the 55th! hehe :mrgreen:
Can you delete your own post? Or at least edit it out.
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Can you delete your own post? Or at least edit it out.
nope

When I posted last it was at the 2.5 hour mark, edit button was already gone
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I work at the Chillicothe VA Hospital. There is an apartment bldg there that prohibits firearms. I will check to see if I can get a picture of the sign. I"m wondering if in fact did the Supreme Court
rule on firearms in government housing or was it a lower court in a different federal district?
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