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This showed up on my Facebook page.
http://www.ammoland.com/2016/05/first-n ... z47VtX5dDk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

50% the cost of brass and reloadable to 40 times
just need their dies for it.

Sounds good to me.

What do you guys think and have you tried any yet ?
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So the interior dimensions are larger than a standard brass case. The flash hole is larger. Both changes potentially affect pressures. So it will be essentially like a wildcat with no published loads.

No thanks.
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ohhh come on Bob where is your sense of adventure :roll:
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NAS3 cases will not split, chip, crack or grow (stretch) and are fully-reloadable with SST’s custom reloading dies.
That would be nice for rifle cases, eliminating the trim process would a big time saver.
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The great advantage to reloading conventional 9mm is that brass is essentially free if you're willing to pick it up. Tough to compete on price.
Being magnetic is interesting, but i think theyll be best by getting ammo makers to use it because ammo loaded with it is somehow "better": more accurate, cheaper, etc.
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From the OP's article:
Loaded 9mm ammunition (using NAS3 technology) can be purchased from Shell Shock’s customers listed on Shell Shock’s Website.
No customers listed.
Unloaded cases and reloading dies can be purchased directly from http://www.shellshocktech.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
No, you can't.
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Looks very fishy to me...
They seem to fix a problem that does not exist (and I believe, neither does the solution they try to sell)
- Brass components are cheap and available almost any time, I can get brass "at every corner"
- Weight is not a real problem in shell casings (as far as I know) so why would anybody need a solution for that?
- Special dies needed, but nothing specific is listed on their site?
- They even say that cost is important and do not give a price range

Bigger concerns:
- No address, phone no., "who are we", tax ID etc. given on the web site
- The domain is owned/registered by somebody in the U.K.
- Who in the right state of mind would start a firearms/ammo related company in CT
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I admit I don't have any first-hand knowledge in the manufacturing of new brass cases, but I'm pretty sure they are all a one-piece affair.

So, now you've got a 2-part case...an aluminum head "attached" to a steel cup. Or is it a cup? Maybe it's a cylinder.

How is it attached? Glued? Soldered? Brazed? Welded? Riveted? Press fit?

All I can see is that case coming apart INSIDE a firearm, probably just when you need it NOT to do so.

As for price, even if the raw materials are significantly cheaper, there have to be 3 separate lines for the manufacture of these cases. One for the aluminum head forming and anodizing, one for the steel cup forming and nickle plating and a final line for attaching the two parts.

I'm just imagining there being more labor involved in making these cases, which would just up their price.
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At the Connecticut Secretary of State website, SHELL SHOCK TECHNOLOGIES, LLC registered their company (Business ID 1185037) on September 3, 2015.

Filing # 0005391136 lists the company as a Foreign Limited Liability Company.

It lists ANTHONY VIGGIANO as CHAIRMAN

and a business address of
38 OWENOKE PARK, WESTPORT, CT, 06880

Is this the same guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLq5uin6d0k" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If so, consider this:

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ct-superior- ... 55822.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: New cases

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Wow maybe it is true you can not believe everything you read on the Internet :roll:

But it sure sounded good.
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BobK wrote:So the interior dimensions are larger than a standard brass case. The flash hole is larger. Both changes potentially affect pressures. So it will be essentially like a wildcat with no published loads.

No thanks.
I believe the inside dimensions are smaller, which is why they enlarged the flash hole. Or at least according to TFB. LINK
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techmike wrote:...I believe the inside dimensions are smaller, which is why they enlarged the flash hole. Or at least according to TFB...
Nope.

TFB was mistaken and updated their article.

Capacity is 2-3% larger.
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Re: New cases

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This maybe not so great for the reloader at the moment.
As more company's use this the data for reloading will show up on the websites and books.
But if you produce millions of rounds and can reduce your raw material cost of one item by 50% that is a no brainer.
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