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bullet jacket caught in forcing cone

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Was doing some target work with some friends the other day and I asked if any one wanted to try my Super Redhawk. A few said yes. I loaded the gun with some of my reloaded 44 mag ammo 27.5 grain H110 behind 200 grain XTP. I fired of the first 6, came back to bench an the and next person took it. He fired 4 rounds and the trigger would not move, nor would the cylinder rotate. I took the gun home and I was able to open the cylinder with a tap of a plastic hammer. To my surprise I found a jacket stuck in the forcing cone.I have never seen this before and I have been reloading for about 25 years and shooting guns of all types for about 55 years. After cleaning the gun I see no damage to the cone or any where else, so gun is good to go. Just odd to me.
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In this case it's a good thing that the jacket prevented further firing.
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no lead at all just the jacket copper
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Yeah that's one I have never seen occur.
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Note to self - don't buy any XTP bullets. :idea:
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Morne wrote:Note to self - don't buy any XTP bullets. :idea:
Actually, XTPs are very good bullets. This would not stop me from buying and using them. I suspect this could have happened to any jacketed hollow point or soft point.
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I agree I will still use them. in 25 years one bad one is darn good odds.
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Yeah, the Hornady XTP is one of the finest component jacketed bullets on the market. I don't shoot a heap of them because they aren't low cost slugs.

200 grains in .44 Mag is a bit light for caliber, but certainly not out of it's normal range. Whatever happened here seems pretty random and also doesn't seem like we have enough information to really investigate it.

Until you see more evidence of... something...
Suppose I'd call it an anomaly.
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The only mechanical thing I can think of is if the cylinder was not fully lined up with the barrel, and the jacket caught the edge of the bore and ripped it off?

A bad bullet is more likely, but easy to check for the former.
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I have fired many times no problem before. but that is not saying the timing could have been knocked off a bit. I have not fired since but will check it soon. Allen/KB8YWY
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kb8ywy wrote:I have fired many times no problem before. but that is not saying the timing could have been knocked off a bit. I have not fired since but will check it soon. Allen/KB8YWY
Without any ammo in the gun, put a slight drag on the cylinder with one hand and pull the trigger with the other hand. Without letting the trigger return to the forward position, check the cylinder is locked up tight at what would be the moment of ignition. Repeat on all cylinders a couple of times. The slight drag is to mimic a heavier weight of the ammo....since you are dry firing....and you might feel something unusual.

Not foolproof, but easy way to check.
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This is just one of the reasons I favor autos over revolvers for concealed carry: shooting a bullet into a barrel, and that flesh-cutting side blast coming out of the cylinder gap. :?
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curmudgeon3 wrote:This is just one of the reasons I favor autos over revolvers for concealed carry: shooting a bullet into a barrel, and that flesh-cutting side blast coming out of the cylinder gap. :?
Not me bro. Way too many variables involved for a semi-auto to function properly and flawlessly. In all my decades of shooting, I've never seen a revolver fail. Sorry to say I cannot say the same for semi-autos.
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Google 'revolver failures'. :|
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curmudgeon3 wrote:Google 'revolver failures'. :|
Googling just about anything will get you a zillion hits every time :?

EDIT: And at least I don't have to worry about failures to chamber, stovepipes during extraction, untimely magazine drops, limp wristing :D
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