psychological observation about OC in a crowded restaurant

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Re: psychological observation about OC in a crowded restaura

Postby WY_Not » Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:57 am

Let us call it what it is a "literacy" test and poll tax. Wrong then and wrong now.

[quote="MyWifeSaidYes"]You spent money on an unfunded mandate (training) just so you could have the privilege of paying a tax (CHL fee) in order to cover your handgun with a piece of fabric...

...Concealed carry. Illegal in Ohio since 1859 (and it is still illegal without paying a tax).
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Re: psychological observation about OC in a crowded restaura

Postby 3FULLMAGS+1 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 7:29 pm

Gramps.....there are many on this board that regularly OC, including me, and they will tell you the same thing, that there is hardly EVER any problems, BUT, there is always the chance that you run into some anti that has drank the kool aid and will be a waste of your time, trying to have a rational conversation.

Then there's the law enforcement officer(s), at least some anyways, that are anti carry, (especially open carry), how you deal with that is up to you ! :wink:

......and i noticed you got some free education from MWSY too ! :P

I was once "much" greener and wet behind the ears, (regarding the issues MWSY spoke of), than I still am, and I've learned a lot from being around people like him who've been around the block a few times and have been in the fight much longer than I.

And by the way, we are all waiting on your report on how it went.
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Re: psychological observation about OC in a crowded restaura

Postby Gramps » Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:18 am

I chickened out.

I did but for good reason in my opinion and honestly I am not comfortable thinking of open carrying and may never be.

After some thought with my wife and youngest grand daughter along I really felt this was not the time to assert my rights and potentially be involved in a scene with the LEO or an anti gun nut.

We spent two days (14-16 hr total) walking around, talking, eating, seeing old friends and making new ones while the wife and I looked for an open carry.

Two sets of good eyes looking at possibly a couple thousand people plus for two days for an open carry and found none. Not saying there were none but we didn't see any. We did see what looked like mace on a couple of belts and a bunch of flat black phones of some type.

Thanks for the lesson MWSY :)
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Re: psychological observation about OC in a crowded restaura

Postby MyWifeSaidYes » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:19 pm

Gramps wrote:I chickened out.

I did but for good reason in my opinion and honestly I am not comfortable thinking of open carrying and may never be.
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You didn't 'chicken out', you just made a choice.

To say you 'chickened out' is to imply that your choice had less value than the alternative.

Open carry or concealed carry...one is not better than the other. They are simply different choices.

I've got a buddy that thinks I'm a chicken because I won't go skydiving with him...yet he won't ride a motorcycle on the highway with me.

Just different choices for different people.

I just can't tell you how proud I am that you even considered open carry (Thank you for that. Seriously.), and I'm simply ecstatic to know that you've joined the ranks of the concealed carriers in Ohio.

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Re: psychological observation about OC in a crowded restaura

Postby curmudgeon3 » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:39 pm

Type of holster retention device is always my first thought when an open carrier appears.
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Re: psychological observation about OC in a crowded restaura

Postby Gramps » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:10 pm

I've got a buddy that thinks I'm a chicken because I won't go skydiving with him...yet he won't ride a motorcycle on the highway with me.

Just different choices for different people.


Heck! I won't do either or those!

Thanks man!
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Re: psychological observation about OC in a crowded restaura

Postby AlanM » Fri Sep 16, 2016 6:55 am

I've got a buddy that thinks I'm a chicken because I won't go skydiving with him...yet he won't ride a motorcycle on the highway with me.

Just different choices for different people.


In both cases it probably scares the hell out of the dog.
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Re: psychological observation about OC in a crowded restaura

Postby Caleb4387 » Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:46 am

I've open carried over a year now with few positive comments and no negatives no screaming in fear and no cops called on me. its the only way to completely exercise the constitutionalright
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Re: psychological observation about OC in a crowded restaura

Postby Gramps » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:13 pm

Welcome to the forum Caleb4387!
Where you from?
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Re: psychological observation about OC in a crowded restaura

Postby charliej47 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:47 am

Caleb4387 wrote:I've open carried over a year now with few positive comments and no negatives no screaming in fear and no cops called on me. its the only way to completely exercise the constitutionalright


I have mostly open carried since 08.
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Re: psychological observation about OC in a crowded restaura

Postby OhioPaints » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:05 pm

Or perhaps we get the CHL so that we can carry a loaded handgun in the car!

Some years back, a fellow in Va or NC spoke about his experience. At that time, in that state, if you were at a bar or alcohol serving restraunt, you had to open carry. He was with 8 business associates. He took off his suit coat to enter and eat dinner. The handgun was clearly visible. Afterward, he asked the people in his group and none of them had even noticed the gun, nor did he have any reaction from the staff, etc.

My own experience, before I had my CHL, was an open carrier in the local DQ. Looked strange and then I realized he was very legal and it was good. He was at the counter and none of the staff seemed to be concerned.
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Re: psychological observation about OC in a crowded restaura

Postby Brian D. » Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:17 pm

OhioPaints wrote:Some years back, a fellow in Va or NC spoke about his experience. At that time, in that state, if you were at a bar or alcohol serving restraunt, you had to open carry. He was with 8 business associates. He took off his suit coat to enter and eat dinner. The handgun was clearly visible. Afterward, he asked the people in his group and none of them had even noticed the gun, nor did he have any reaction from the staff, etc.


Forum member Schmieg reported doing that once visiting in Virginia when their law was so worded. As I recall at least one local in their group told him he was doing something illegal. Nope, as a tourist (albeit a very smart one with a law degree), Schmieg was absolutely correct. I'm sure he can retell the tale better than I'm relating it.

Truth be told I did the same thing there during that time period but was with a group of Virginia gun rights guys that..well, I still let them remove their jackets before I did. It seemed weird and of course it's no longer part of their restrictions.
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Re: psychological observation about OC in a crowded restaura

Postby schmieg » Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:50 pm

Brian D. wrote:
OhioPaints wrote:Some years back, a fellow in Va or NC spoke about his experience. At that time, in that state, if you were at a bar or alcohol serving restraunt, you had to open carry. He was with 8 business associates. He took off his suit coat to enter and eat dinner. The handgun was clearly visible. Afterward, he asked the people in his group and none of them had even noticed the gun, nor did he have any reaction from the staff, etc.


Forum member Schmieg reported doing that once visiting in Virginia when their law was so worded. As I recall at least one local in their group told him he was doing something illegal. Nope, as a tourist (albeit a very smart one with a law degree), Schmieg was absolutely correct. I'm sure he can retell the tale better than I'm relating it.

Truth be told I did the same thing there during that time period but was with a group of Virginia gun rights guys that..well, I still let them remove their jackets before I did. It seemed weird and of course it's no longer part of their restrictions.

Actually, it was my brother who kept pulling my shirt back over the gun and I had to keep pulling it back up to keep it exposed. He has lived in Virginia most of his life, but he was unaware of the concealed carry law twists. I believe he now has his license since he is now retired, but, as a doctor there, he had very little opportunity to carry except on his farm. He did a lot of hunting and his wife shot a timber rattler near the house on his farm, so he wasn't hoplophobic and my father taught gun safety to his kids at an early age.
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Re: psychological observation about OC in a crowded restaura

Postby Brian D. » Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:56 pm

Thanks for retelling the story, Mike.
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Re: psychological observation about OC in a crowded restaura

Postby M-Quigley » Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:04 am

Caleb4387 wrote:I've open carried over a year now with few positive comments and no negatives no screaming in fear and no cops called on me. its the only way to completely exercise the constitutionalright


Welcome to the forum. I think peoples reactions to open carry might depend on where you are at. I'm sure that if I'd been in some other parts of the state no one would've batted an eye. No one said anything negative to the guy, and the staff didn't seem to care. Neither did most of the other patrons. It was just that there were some who were obvious in their physical reactions. I think if more good people would carry, either open or concealed, there would be less violent crime.
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