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Just what the title says.
Not intoxicated.
Just if I have a cookout, somebody brings some exotic brew and I accept one type of situation.

Legal or illegal?
Would a chl make it illegal?
Would concealed with a chl make it illegal?

If it's property you own that is covered by a Class D liquor license (e.g. the bar you own) then it would be illegal on several fronts. Anything else and it's not illegal at all.

Unless of course there is for whatever reason LE is called to your property and the cop deems you as being under the influence... not .06... not .04... just his opinion that you are.

Then, not so much good to go....

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I think that is a no.

johnwilliamson062 wrote:http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.15

I think that is a no.

All depends on who/what determines "under the influence".

Rule of thumb should be - If you consume ANY alcohol, the answer is NO. It's is your responsibility to have a clear head. It's easy. Alcohol and firearms DO NOT MIX.

Remember as a CHL holder, we are held to a higher standard and must maintain it at all times.

My thumbs are gonna go cook some burgers and have a couple beers.

Tayllen wrote:Rule of thumb should be - If you consume ANY alcohol, the answer is NO. It's is your responsibility to have a clear head. It's easy. Alcohol and firearms DO NOT MIX.

Remember as a CHL holder, we are held to a higher standard and must maintain it at all times.

If this is your own, personal "rule of thumb" then fine. But I take exception to the imposition of someone else's subjective standards upon myself. If I choose to have a beer, that's my business. If I'm armed while I do it, that's also my business.

As I type this, I'm sitting on my back deck. Armed. With a beer (and an evil cigar, at that). If that terrifies someone, then I invite them to stay in their safe space and not visit me.

If I'm in a Class D facility while armed, I will not consume alchohol because that's what the law currently says. Not because I agree that the law is correct or even sensical but simply because I am a law abiding citizen and that's what the law says.

The black and white proposition that "alcohol and firearms DO NOT mix" may work for others, but I find it ludicrous to presuppose that the consumption of alcohol revokes my right to self-defense. Yes, I'm aware that others here (perhaps many others) disagree. But then, we also disagree as to whether or not one should hang out in the left lane, so...meh.

For someone that has posted twice in two years, Tayllen seems to be against carrying guns.

I'm not giving up my rights because I chose to have a couple beers. Ain't gonna happen.

I always chuckle when I overhear people at a restaurant, drinking a glass of wine while waving their steak knives around, discussing guns in bars.

Alcoholic beverages, in any amount, reduces inhibitions (ask any lounge lizard); imbibing while driving a vehicle or carrying a firearm is affected by it, so there are choices to be made about oneself and others, regardless of one's personal capability.

HancockCountyHAl wrote:I always chuckle when I overhear people at a restaurant, drinking a glass of wine while waving their steak knives around, discussing guns in bars.

Good one Hal! You might recall that, after the O.J. Simpson murder trial debacle, Simpson was denied service at, and thrown out of, a restaurant in Louisville Ky. the night before the Kentucky Derby. I happened to eat there a week later and brought it up with the manager when he stopped by the table. The more I thought about it the more I agreed: Who wants to have somebody like Simpson a couple tables away at a steakhouse, with several knives right there in front of him? I wouldn't want to be there at the same time.

The manager lowered his voice to a "This is between us, okay?" level and told me what had troubled him: Not only did Simpson have a large group of hangers-on with him, but a few folks from other tables came over to glad hand O.J. before he was asked (told) to leave.

My answer to the OP's question:
I think having a beer while armed is a bad choice.
Best regards.

I have yet to go on a murderous rampage after having a drink. YMMV.