Open Carry Walk Miami University

Open Carry is carrying a firearm unconcealed in Ohio. OC does not require a concealed handgun license, but the practice requires intimate knowledge of the law since there are places and situations where OC is prohibited but carrying concealed would be permitted. OC is also likely to attract attention. This forum is for discussion of OC, not for debating the pro's and con's or coordinating any type of protest events.

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Re: Open Carry Walk Miami University

Postby MyWifeSaidYes » Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:53 pm

WeinerDog wrote:Do me a favor. If you attend the BLM meeting ask them if the over 8 out of 10 black babies in NYC who are aborted if their lives matter.


What does that have to do with firearms or the open carry walk? :?
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Re: Open Carry Walk Miami University

Postby Victory Bill » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:13 pm

Just the dichotomy of views on campus. The university supports/sponsors events such as BLM but an open carry event has been kept hush hush. If not for the B.C.S.O., I would not have known. The college experience is supposed to be about the open arena of ideas. Just underscores to the hypocrisy. My mentioning it was not to sidetrack the discussion, just highlight the hypocrisy.

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Re: Open Carry Walk Miami University

Postby SeanC » Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:31 pm

What is the purpose of the OC walk?
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Re: Open Carry Walk Miami University

Postby JediSkipdogg » Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:39 pm

SeanC wrote:What is the purpose of the OC walk?


I'm not the speaker of the event, but to show the University that people with firearms are not a general threat of harm to the campus or the students.

My issue is, no college has changed their student handbook to remove the no weapons violation and all have only given a student a pass on the day of the event with the mindset that it's a 1st Amendment March and not a 2nd Amendment March. I do think there needs to be a lot more of a purpose or drive behind the walks. One walk on each campus over a two year period where the college gives their blessing on a 1st Amendment basis is not very effective in my opinion. Continual walks or follow ups with pressure on the university to change their policies would be a more effective method.
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Re: Open Carry Walk Miami University

Postby pirateguy191 » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:47 pm

JediSkipdogg wrote: One walk on each campus over a two year period where the college gives their blessing on a 1st Amendment basis is not very effective in my opinion. Continual walks or follow ups with pressure on the university to change their policies would be a more effective method.


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Re: Open Carry Walk Miami University

Postby Victory Bill » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:50 pm

SeanC wrote:What is the purpose of the OC walk?


I'm not the organizer either but from what I gather, it is an attempt at outreach to the students that have their heads filled with all the stuff they stuff in their heads at college. Not necessarily looking to change policy but rather to change mindsets of the students which may pay dividends down the road when it comes to changing policy. Ohio law prevents carrying on campus at MU from the legal aspect.

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Re: Open Carry Walk Miami University

Postby Brian D. » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:38 pm

Some of you may not remember that a series of OC walks helped push our legislature towards passage of licensed concealed carry. I also do not want to speak for the main organizer of these current events, but he was part of those early proceedings. So were some of the OFCC founding fathers.
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Re: Open Carry Walk Miami University

Postby MyWifeSaidYes » Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:11 pm

Victory Bill wrote:... Ohio law prevents carrying on campus at MU from the legal aspect.


LAW = open carry on campus (but not in buildings) is perfectly legal. Only CC is illegal.

POLICY = no students/staff/faculty may carry, at all, on campus.
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Re: Open Carry Walk Miami University

Postby BB62 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:23 am

SeanC wrote:What is the purpose of the OC walk?

The purpose of the Walk is clearly spelled out in its description on Facebook. You may want to check it out.
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Re: Open Carry Walk Miami University

Postby BB62 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:36 am

JediSkipdogg wrote:I'm not the speaker of the event, but to show the University that people with firearms are not a general threat of harm to the campus or the students.

Really? Fascinating!


JediSkipdogg wrote:My issue is, no college has changed their student handbook to remove the no weapons violation...

Well, there was this really cool lawsuit that, as some predicted it would, went nowhere...


JediSkipdogg wrote:My issue is, no college has changed their student handbook to remove the no weapons violation and all have only given a student a pass on the day of the event with the mindset that it's a 1st Amendment March and not a 2nd Amendment March.

(my bold above)

First, please tell us how you purport to know these things, and second, it's a Walk, not a march.


JediSkipdogg wrote:I do think there needs to be a lot more of a purpose or drive behind the walks.

Do tell! :roll:


JediSkipdogg wrote:...One walk on each campus over a two year period where the college gives their blessing on a 1st Amendment basis is not very effective in my opinion. Continual walks or follow ups with pressure on the university to change their policies would be a more effective method.

Purportedly, Ohio has multiple gun rights organizations that could now, or could have previously, organized and promoted Walks (and applied accompanying pressure), yet they haven't. It does makes one wonder why such a fantastic idea hasn't been adopted, doesn't it?

Instead, the Walks that have been done, and will shortly be done, have been organized by one individual. Hmmm...
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Re: Open Carry Walk Miami University

Postby Victory Bill » Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:34 am

MyWifeSaidYes wrote:
Victory Bill wrote:... Ohio law prevents carrying on campus at MU from the legal aspect.


LAW = open carry on campus (but not in buildings) is perfectly legal. Only CC is illegal.

POLICY = no students/staff/faculty may carry, at all, on campus.


I was ill informed. Thank you. :mrgreen:

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Re: Open Carry Walk Miami University

Postby MyWifeSaidYes » Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:43 am

Victory Bill wrote:I was ill informed. Thank you. :mrgreen:


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Unless you're a bad guy...then I aim for center mass.

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Re: Open Carry Walk Miami University

Postby Victory Bill » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:17 am

MyWifeSaidYes wrote:
Victory Bill wrote:I was ill informed. Thank you. :mrgreen:


I aim to please.

Unless you're a bad guy...then I aim for center mass.

:mrgreen:


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Miami University Announcement to students

Postby Victory Bill » Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:19 pm

This was sent out by Miami University to all students today.

Organized "open carry" event to be held on Miami's campus and in Oxford

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A group that has led "open carry" walks at other Ohio campuses plans to lead one at Miami University's Oxford campus and in the City of Oxford at 1 p.m. Saturday, April 30.

Ohio law permits people to carry weapons on public property.

Led by Jeff Smith of Cincinnati, the group has held "open carry" walks without incident at other campuses, including the University of Cincinnati, Ohio State University and the University of Akron.

The group will not enter any university buildings carrying weapons. Miami will have police officers stationed near the walk in order to help promote safety and protect the rights of all, including walk participants.

The university will not take disciplinary action against students under the Code of Student Conduct solely for legal possession of a weapon while participating in this organized event. Weapons are not permitted in the residence halls or other buildings on campus and students should contact the Miami University Police Department regarding storage of weapons and other information pertaining to participating in the walk.

The University of Cincinnati student paper covered U.C.'s event:
http://www.newsrecord.org/news/campus/g ... f6878.html

This is the Akron Beacon Journal article on the walk at the University of Akron:
http://www.ohio.com/news/break-news/gun ... s-1.586490

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Re: Open Carry Walk Miami University

Postby MyWifeSaidYes » Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:33 pm

Oh. The. Horror.

Whatever. Shall. We. Do. ?.
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