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Non-resident OC in Ohio

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:22 pm
by docachna
Had an interesting chat with a gun store/gun range operator down here today. He also teaches Tennessee CHL classes.

He has relatives in Dayton, and claims that "a state office" (Ohio AG ?) told him by phone that a non-Ohio resident, who had not been issued a concealed carry permit/license in any state, could not open carry in Ohio. I tried to explain to him that in Ohio, OC, since it is nowhere made illegal, is therefore legal, and that as long as the person was otherwise entitled to possess a handgun, they could OC in Ohio all day long (not in the car, prohibited places, etc., etc.). He seemed convinced of what he was told.

Any nuances to this that I'm missing ? :?

Re: Non-resident OC in Ohio

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:53 pm
by MyWifeSaidYes
Nope.

He's full of excrement or he was given false information.

Press him for the name and phone number of the person that gave him that info.

Re: Non-resident OC in Ohio

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:54 am
by 3FULLMAGS+1
Point him in THIS direction, unless he's one of those horses who just wont drink.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Non-resident OC in Ohio

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:16 am
by JustaShooter
Or to the Ohio Attorney General's Concealed Carry Laws pamphlet, page 14:
Open Carry
Ohio’s concealed carry laws do not regulate “open” carry of
firearms. If you openly carry, use caution. The open carry of firearms
is a legal activity in Ohio

Re: Non-resident OC in Ohio

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:27 pm
by centermass
As far as I know, Canadians can come down and walk around open carry. I wonder if they know that.

Re: Non-resident OC in Ohio

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:43 pm
by JustaShooter
centermass wrote:As far as I know, Canadians can come down and walk around open carry. I wonder if they know that.
They can, and I know of one that knows he can, and does, OC when he visits.

Re: Non-resident OC in Ohio

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:54 pm
by WestonDon
JustaShooter wrote:
centermass wrote:As far as I know, Canadians can come down and walk around open carry. I wonder if they know that.
They can, and I know of one that knows he can, and does, OC when he visits.
Where does he get the gun?

Re: Non-resident OC in Ohio

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:04 pm
by centermass
JustaShooter wrote:
centermass wrote:As far as I know, Canadians can come down and walk around open carry. I wonder if they know that.
They can, and I know of one that knows he can, and does, OC when he visits.
Nice. You should invite him to an OC cracker barrel outing.

Re: Non-resident OC in Ohio

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:27 pm
by JustaShooter
WestonDon wrote:
JustaShooter wrote:
centermass wrote:As far as I know, Canadians can come down and walk around open carry. I wonder if they know that.
They can, and I know of one that knows he can, and does, OC when he visits.
Where does he get the gun?
I don't know for sure, but I suspect he borrows one from a friend.

Re: Non-resident OC in Ohio

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:37 pm
by gaptrick
If the Canadian has no felonies in the US but does in his home country, does US law apply?

Re: Non-resident OC in Ohio

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:49 pm
by sodbuster95
gaptrick wrote:If the Canadian has no felonies in the US but does in his home country, does US law apply?
Interesting scenario.

As long as they're in this country, I would say yes. The difficulty would be in determining if the foreign "felony" at issue would also constitute a felony under US law sufficient to give rise to a firearms prohibition.

Just my uninformed opinion on the topic, though.

Re: Non-resident OC in Ohio

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:47 pm
by Werz
sodbuster95 wrote:
gaptrick wrote:If the Canadian has no felonies in the US but does in his home country, does US law apply?
Interesting scenario.

As long as they're in this country, I would say yes. The difficulty would be in determining if the foreign "felony" at issue would also constitute a felony under US law sufficient to give rise to a firearms prohibition.

Just my uninformed opinion on the topic, though.
That's usually the way that out-of-jurisdiction prior convictions are determined: Do the elements of the offense reasonably match?