There is no magic answer to that question. The common sense answer is "enough to clearly establish that it is a handgun."MacDonald wrote:How much of the gun has to be showing to be considered OC?
Ohio open carry question
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And that should include a handgun openly carried but concealed in a flap holster.Werz wrote:There is no magic answer to that question. The common sense answer is "enough to clearly establish that it is a handgun."MacDonald wrote:How much of the gun has to be showing to be considered OC?
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Ah dunno... have you seen the cases for the iPhone 6 Plus yet? Twice now I've seen some unfashionable middle-aged guy with such an item on his belt and thought to myself "hmm, wonder what he's packing?" At some point later on he opens the flap and pulls out his mini tablet and starts making phone calls...MyWifeSaidYes wrote:And that should include a handgun openly carried but concealed in a flap holster.
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Yeah, this is ridiculous:
This is what I meant:
but these are becoming more common:
This is what I meant:
but these are becoming more common:
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Also the real question shouldn't be what is considered open carry. The question should be what is considered concealed carry. One should worry more about concealed carry since that is where the law comes into play.
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Unless there is newer case law:
The same handgun, in an IWB holster that rides low enough for the grip to NOT be visible OR that there is not enough of the grip showing to tell that it is a gun, WOULD be concealed.
So, a handgun carried in an Inside the Waist Band holster, where no garment covers the grip and the grip protrudes above the beltline enough to be able to tell that it is (or MAY be) a gun, would NOT be concealed.State v. Pettit (1969), 20 Ohio App. 2d 170, 173-174 -- "We think that a recognized test is that a weapon is concealed if it is so situated as not to be discernible by ordinary observation by those near enough to see it if it were not concealed, who would come into contact with the possessor in the usual associations of life; but that absolute invisibility is not required, since ordinary observation does not extend to a search unusually careful, thorough or detailed, made because of suspicion that contraband which is not visible by ordinary observation may in actuality be present."
The same handgun, in an IWB holster that rides low enough for the grip to NOT be visible OR that there is not enough of the grip showing to tell that it is a gun, WOULD be concealed.
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State v. Pettit (1969), 20 Ohio App. 2d 170, 173-174 -- "We think that a recognized test is that a weapon is concealed if it is so situated as not to be discernible by ordinary observation by those near enough to see it if it were not concealed, who would come into contact with the possessor in the usual associations of life; but that absolute invisibility is not required, since ordinary observation does not extend to a search unusually careful, thorough or detailed, made because of suspicion that contraband which is not visible by ordinary observation may in actuality be present." "Quote"
Discernible?....guess that depends on the one observing.
I use a Sneeky Pete for church carry only and I've had more than a few people know what I had in there, but then they were carriers too......there was also a missionary, another a military chaplain, both visiting our church and they knew what it was too, so.....
So I'd say discernible depends on the knowledge of the one observing the holster and knowing what it is, not just whether it "looks" ,(with out a doubt), like a gun. My definition of concealed is if the gun is covered up so that it is not seen, regardless of what it is "in" or "inside of" and not whether the (flap), "holster" or "fanny pack" gives it away even though it is not physically seen.
Discernible?....guess that depends on the one observing.
I use a Sneeky Pete for church carry only and I've had more than a few people know what I had in there, but then they were carriers too......there was also a missionary, another a military chaplain, both visiting our church and they knew what it was too, so.....
So I'd say discernible depends on the knowledge of the one observing the holster and knowing what it is, not just whether it "looks" ,(with out a doubt), like a gun. My definition of concealed is if the gun is covered up so that it is not seen, regardless of what it is "in" or "inside of" and not whether the (flap), "holster" or "fanny pack" gives it away even though it is not physically seen.
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