Raising awareness and prompting discussion
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Re: Raising awareness and prompting discussion
One would have to word the ballot language so that a yes vote would result in the amendment not passing. Is that what you meant? I don't know how one would do that. Perhaps someone more skilled in the razzle dazzle of politics could figure it out.
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Re: Raising awareness and prompting discussion
Cincinnati did that with the streetcar ballot language.WestonDon wrote:One would have to word the ballot language so that a yes vote would result in the amendment not passing. Is that what you meant? I don't know how one would do that. Perhaps someone more skilled in the razzle dazzle of politics could figure it out.
Shall the Charter of the City of Cincinnati be amended to prohibit the city, and its various boards and commissions, from spending any monies for right-of-way acquisition or construction of improvements for passenger rail transportation (e.g., a trolley or streetcar) within the city limits without first submitting the question of approval of such expenditure to a vote of the electorate of the city and receiving a majority affirmative vote for the same by enacting new Article XIV?[3]
Voting Yes meant you wanted to have a separate vote on the streetcar. Voting No meant you wanted the streetcar to go forward. There was huge talks after it passed that no meant yes and yes meant no for a streetcar to be built.
So instead of a simple ballot of "Shall the city of Cincinnati build a streetcar" they made that convoluted mess above.
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Re: Raising awareness and prompting discussion
Weve had a few like that in Cleveland. How did the streetcar vote turn out?JediSkipdogg wrote:Cincinnati did that with the streetcar ballot language.WestonDon wrote:One would have to word the ballot language so that a yes vote would result in the amendment not passing. Is that what you meant? I don't know how one would do that. Perhaps someone more skilled in the razzle dazzle of politics could figure it out.
Shall the Charter of the City of Cincinnati be amended to prohibit the city, and its various boards and commissions, from spending any monies for right-of-way acquisition or construction of improvements for passenger rail transportation (e.g., a trolley or streetcar) within the city limits without first submitting the question of approval of such expenditure to a vote of the electorate of the city and receiving a majority affirmative vote for the same by enacting new Article XIV?[3]
Voting Yes meant you wanted to have a separate vote on the streetcar. Voting No meant you wanted the streetcar to go forward. There was huge talks after it passed that no meant yes and yes meant no for a streetcar to be built.
So instead of a simple ballot of "Shall the city of Cincinnati build a streetcar" they made that convoluted mess above.
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It's being built as we speak. I believe a huge downfall was...dan dan the XD40 man wrote:Weve had a few like that in Cleveland. How did the streetcar vote turn out?JediSkipdogg wrote:Cincinnati did that with the streetcar ballot language.WestonDon wrote:One would have to word the ballot language so that a yes vote would result in the amendment not passing. Is that what you meant? I don't know how one would do that. Perhaps someone more skilled in the razzle dazzle of politics could figure it out.
Shall the Charter of the City of Cincinnati be amended to prohibit the city, and its various boards and commissions, from spending any monies for right-of-way acquisition or construction of improvements for passenger rail transportation (e.g., a trolley or streetcar) within the city limits without first submitting the question of approval of such expenditure to a vote of the electorate of the city and receiving a majority affirmative vote for the same by enacting new Article XIV?[3]
Voting Yes meant you wanted to have a separate vote on the streetcar. Voting No meant you wanted the streetcar to go forward. There was huge talks after it passed that no meant yes and yes meant no for a streetcar to be built.
So instead of a simple ballot of "Shall the city of Cincinnati build a streetcar" they made that convoluted mess above.
1) The ballot language was confusing
2) It shut down all forms of light rail within the city and a huge project they are thinking of doing is a light rail from Hamilton County to Clermont County but it would require some local investment (although quite small) from each municipality it passes through. The "for the streetcar" group said this would shut down any light rail systems at all through Cincinnati.
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