Central Ohio Police Adapting To 'Baiting' Tactics By The Pub

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Central Ohio Police Adapting To 'Baiting' Tactics By The Pub

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This article also mentions a few cases of pranks like a guy arrested for breaking into a fake ATM, but it's primarily speaking about open carry incidents.

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Some in law enforcement said there is a growing trend of people testing them.

Officers said more people are attempting to bait people into violating their rights so they catch it on camera, and in some cases, cash in.
“If law enforcement is able to use bait cars to lure criminals into doing a criminal act, then I don't know I'm against an open carrier into luring a police officer into harassment,” Noice said.
So by adapting, hopefully they mean training about what the law is?
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I like just where your thread title cuts off...Reminds me of that joke about the "designated decoy" leaving a saloon. :mrgreen:
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I wish people wouldn't bait Police Officers. They are only doing their jobs and could be needed elsewhere for something more important. Plus it makes law abiding citizens look bad.

Good job to MWSY on being in the media spotlight again! LOL

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You cry wolf to many times and you know what happens....
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Flhrci wrote: Good job to MWSY on being in the media spotlight again! LOL
Yup, always cool to see a familiar face supporting gun rights in the local media. :D
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carmen fovozzo wrote:You cry wolf to many times and you know what happens....
Isnt that the goal...? No police response for someone openly carrying a firearm.
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Splat!! wrote:
carmen fovozzo wrote:You cry wolf to many times and you know what happens....
Isnt that the goal...? No police response for someone openly carrying a firearm.
NO.

That is NOT the goal.

The goal is to stop the HARASSMENT of open carriers.


We want:
"Hello, sir. We got a call about a man with a gun."

"Yes, officer. That was probably me since I have a rifle slung over my shoulder."

"Have you committed any crimes with that?"

"No."

"Have you pointed it at anyone or fired it within city limits?"

"No."

"Okay. Have a nice day."
...as opposed to being approached at gunpoint, proned out with a knee on our neck, cuffed & stuffed, searched illegally, threatened, coerced, and having our property confiscated.

THAT is the goal.
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Exactly....and the way to achieve that goal is threw educating The Police.....not harassing them...

They should learn if you hassle a LAC with a gun there will be a penalty to pay...
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Interesting to see that this works in reverse, too....

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OK, in all seriousness: to be frank, my feelings on this kind of baiting is very conflicted.
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I'd say the goal would be more like this:
"911 What is your emergency?"

"There's a man with a gun walking down the street."

"Is he pointing it at anyone or threatening them?"

"No, he's just walking his dog...but he's got a gun."

"That's not a crime."

"But he's got a gun."

"That's not a crime, have a nice day."
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TSiWRX wrote:Interesting to see that this works in reverse, too....

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OK, in all seriousness: to be frank, my feelings on this kind of baiting is very conflicted.
So you got sucked into that one ? :P
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Pecker wrote:I'd say the goal would be more like this:
"911 What is your emergency?"

"There's a man with a gun walking down the street."

"Is he pointing it at anyone or threatening them?"

"No, he's just walking his dog...but he's got a gun."

"That's not a crime."

"But he's got a gun."

"That's not a crime, have a nice day."

Exactly....
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carmen fovozzo wrote: So you got sucked into that one ? :P
They said they were serving little eggrolls for appetizer......
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There is certainly a difference between trying to bait police officers and exercising your rights for education of police officers.

I would not condone carrying openly to just test officers in order to get them to slip up. It's one thing to have an encounter, and then try to make sure it does not happen again with that department (through education of that department). But to just try to get a "payday" for the sake of taking my tax dollars angers me.
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The mere act of open carrying shouldn't be lumped in with mr. pee-bottle fake... pretending to do an illegal act is different from doing a lawful act and getting harrased about it...
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