Lawsuit filed for illegal stop of Ohio open carrier

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Lawsuit filed for illegal stop of Ohio open carrier

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For those of you who are not aware of the illegal stop that Riverside police made on an open carrier, you may want to read the report and watch the video.

Original police report:
http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4610284 ... -795k?da=y" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Video of stop:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siAqelKBUAA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Once you've gotten up to speed, you may ALSO be interested in the lawsuit that has been filed against Riverside. I know I'LL be following it closely.

Lawsuit:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6gtW6D ... sp=sharing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Some may want to skip to page 12 of the lawsuit to see how many zeroes are involved. :shock:
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Good for him.
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Good luck to this guy. I'm rooting for him, but I would offer this bit of advice: Keep your expectations low and your patience high.
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.......Looks like this guy was doing nothing to warrant a stop......

I do have a question.....Did the OC have ID on him or not ? Or did he just refuse to show it ? His right of course....
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sodbuster95 wrote:Good luck to this guy. I'm rooting for him, but I would offer this bit of advice: Keep your expectations low and your patience high.
Indeed.
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Here's a link to the original (I think) on OCDO: http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showt ... C-dash-cam" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

As I recall, there was some serious question about whether the officer's write-up of the "stop" was real or fiction.
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carmen fovozzo wrote:.......Looks like this guy was doing nothing to warrant a stop......

I do have a question.....Did the OC have ID on him or not ? Or did he just refuse to show it ? His right of course....
Went back a bit and answered my own question...

Seems this guy does this often....

I can see the LEO might be a little suspicious when he saw the OC park somewhere else and then went to the store and not use the store parking lot...
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carmen fovozzo wrote:
carmen fovozzo wrote:.......Looks like this guy was doing nothing to warrant a stop......

I do have a question.....Did the OC have ID on him or not ? Or did he just refuse to show it ? His right of course....
Went back a bit and answered my own question...

Seems this guy does this often....

I can see the LEO might be a little suspicious when he saw the OC park somewhere else and then went to the store and not use the store parking lot...
What do you mean "this guy does this often"? And, I don't recall anything about the guy parking somewhere else.

What is the source of your information?
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Police report....
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carmen fovozzo wrote:Police report....
OH, I thought you were referring to some factual information!
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Can't open the original police report....
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carmen fovozzo wrote:Can't open the original police report....
I was just looking for it myself - but you said that your comment was based on information in the police report...?
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It worked this morning...

Settle down a bit friend...I'm on the OC side...So far... :wink:
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BB62 wrote:
carmen fovozzo wrote:Police report....
OH, I thought you were referring to some factual information!
Actually, we don't know the facts on that issue. Thus, the John/Jane Doe cause of action. It will be interesting to see what, if anything, is revealed by discovery.
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Werz wrote:
BB62 wrote:
carmen fovozzo wrote:Police report....
OH, I thought you were referring to some factual information!
Actually, we don't know the facts on that issue. Thus, the John/Jane Doe cause of action. It will be interesting to see what, if anything, is revealed by discovery.
Know facts, as in a legal, prove it in a courtroom sense? Maybe not, but the officer's report is full of holes, inaccuracies, and contradictions. That's enough for me to say that the report is most certainly NOT factual.

Now, if someone can tell me how to post a PDF, I have found the police report.
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