Northwood LEO breaks OC'ers D/L in half

jacksnack · Post by **jacksnack** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:26 am

WBL_2006 wrote:
You have no problem calling the police when there is no suspicion or evidence that a crime has been committed?
Nope. If it is indeed an officer, it is part of their job.

If it is an everyday "Joe" or "Jane", they have the right also. It is then the responsibility of LE to respond accordingly. As a result of some unfortunate events lately, maybe now the LE folks will respond in a more civil manner if at all. (Wishful thinking, I know).

WBL

I would agree, it is part of their job, but their job is to investigate and enforce laws, not create them.

jacksnack · Post by **jacksnack** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:30 am

Beekeeper wrote:This abuse has to stop. I'm going to get me a voice recorder, and carry it.

We should ALL carry one. I now carry and older cassette recorder. With the proper cable, I can output the audio to a digital format on my puter'.

WBL_2006 · Post by **WBL_2006** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:32 am

I would agree, it is part of their job, but their job is to investigate and enforce laws, not create them.

I agree with this also. If the events transpired as described, then I agree the officer(s) in this situation acted unprofessional and made serious errors and should be reprimanded.

Read Groundchuk's post on Pg. 3; I can see this situation playing out in just that manner.

WBL

Cruiser · Post by **Cruiser** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:45 am

In the eyes of some, a man covered with tats and with a very young girl is suspicious!
I am a 64 year old graybeard. I make it a point never to communicate with young teens or children. It might look suspicious.

Pops Fun · Post by **Pops Fun** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:59 am

Hi
Is this the right community?? I am not posting this so people can contact them, not even sure this is the right place. (near Toledo)
Let OFCC do there magic.
But thought that there mission statement was interesting.

http://www.ci.northwood.oh.us//pages/police.html

The bold is mine.

MISSION STATEMENT

OUR VISION - We will promote a safe and secure community through fair and professional policing.

OUR MISSION - We are dedicated to preventing crime, enforcing laws, protecting life and property while upholding the constitutional rights of all.

OUR VALUES - We value professionalism, integrity and teamwork with respect for each other and the community we are proud to serve.

GWC · Post by **GWC** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:11 am

Maybe (at the appropriate time, if the city refuses to respond proffessionally) we should have an OC walk while wearing Insane Clown Posse T-shirts.

Then we can get the ACLU on our side!

McGyver · Post by **McGyver** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:27 am

This story made it to TedNugent.com! Boy this is gonna really get Unkle Ted's knickers in a twist when he reads it! He's on tour in Europe right now, but I'd bet he gets involved somehow!

Regulator2 · Post by **Regulator2** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:30 am

Maybe (at the appropriate time, if the city refuses to respond proffessionally) we should have an OC walk while wearing Insane Clown Posse T-shirts.

as ridiculous as that sounds...it's actually a good idea...

Then we can get the ACLU on our side!

although then they might interpret us as being gang related and throw some obscure Homeland security statute at us for terrorism

either way, we'll let the Professionals work, they will let us know what is needed

I am again just happy this Org exists and that I became a part of it....
talk about Grassroots, and coming together

and yes I am starting to think a digital voice recorder is in my "near" future

jacksnack · Post by **jacksnack** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:30 am

McGyver wrote:This story made it to TedNugent.com! Boy this is gonna really get Unkle Ted's knickers in a twist when he reads it! He's on tour in Europe right now, but I'd bet he gets involved somehow!

Got a link?

...don't know how deep it is in the site...

Paul_K · Post by **Paul_K** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:45 am

I have been content with standing aside and letting the Willowick Police Dept and OFCC guide matters along, until this latest incident.
After reading about the incident in Northwood, I felt that a 'heads-up' email to my local police department, concerning these two incidents, would be appropriate.
I have emailed links to the stories on OFCC's main page, and expressed my hope that law enforcement officers in my area are better informed as to the legality of open carry in Ohio.

McM · Post by **McM** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:55 am

jacksnack wrote:
McGyver wrote:This story made it to TedNugent.com! Boy this is gonna really get Unkle Ted's knickers in a twist when he reads it! He's on tour in Europe right now, but I'd bet he gets involved somehow!
Got a link?

...don't know how deep it is in the site...

It is piled pretty deep on Ted's site. By 'it' I don't mean this story, I mean the level of 'Big talk, little if any action'.

Many years ago, when I used to read that forum (before it went to a 'pay to view' format) I wrote in about a rifle I had stolen by a FFL1 when his shop closed. Ted and the bunch over there swore up and down they would storm Congress if necessary, they made a big deal of it. Guess what any of them actually did? Squat, Jack 'Squat. All 'Cavalry to the rescue', then they acted like the Iraqi army and disappeared. Ted is a good PR guy, when it comes to 'Unka Ted'.

jacksnack · Post by **jacksnack** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:03 am

McM wrote:
jacksnack wrote:
McGyver wrote:This story made it to TedNugent.com! Boy this is gonna really get Unkle Ted's knickers in a twist when he reads it! He's on tour in Europe right now, but I'd bet he gets involved somehow!
Got a link?

...don't know how deep it is in the site...
It is piled pretty deep on Ted's site. By 'it' I don't mean this story, I mean the level of 'Big talk, little if any action'.

Many years ago, when I used to read that forum (before it went to a 'pay to view' format) I wrote in about a rifle I had stolen by a FFL1 when his shop closed. Ted and the bunch over there swore up and down they would storm Congress if necessary, they made a big deal of it. Guess what any of them actually did? Squat, Jack 'Squat. All 'Cavalry to the rescue', then they acted like the Iraqi army and disappeared. Ted is a good PR guy, when it comes to 'Unka Ted'.

I don't think we need anyone to storm congress.

I am glad however the story is disseminated well.

color of law · Post by **color of law** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:08 am

Regulator2 wrote:
Maybe (at the appropriate time, if the city refuses to respond proffessionally) we should have an OC walk while wearing Insane Clown Posse T-shirts.
as ridiculous as that sounds...it's actually a good idea...
Then we can get the ACLU on our side!

although then they might interpret us as being gang related and throw some obscure Homeland security statute at us for terrorism

either way, we'll let the Professionals work, they will let us know what is needed

I am again just happy this Org exists and that I became a part of it....
talk about Grassroots, and coming together

and yes I am starting to think a digital voice recorder is in my "near" future

Won't fly. Ohio bill of rights: § 1.03 Right to assemble: "The people have the right to assemble together, in a peaceable manner, to consult for their common good; to instruct their representatives; and to petition the general assembly for the redress of grievances." So if the people have the right to assemble together, in a peaceable manner, to consult for their common good and do it on the public square in Northwood, then Northwood would not have much power to object.

jacksnack · Post by **jacksnack** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:19 am

color of law wrote:
Regulator2 wrote:
Maybe (at the appropriate time, if the city refuses to respond proffessionally) we should have an OC walk while wearing Insane Clown Posse T-shirts.
as ridiculous as that sounds...it's actually a good idea...
Then we can get the ACLU on our side!

although then they might interpret us as being gang related and throw some obscure Homeland security statute at us for terrorism

either way, we'll let the Professionals work, they will let us know what is needed

I am again just happy this Org exists and that I became a part of it....
talk about Grassroots, and coming together

and yes I am starting to think a digital voice recorder is in my "near" future
Won't fly. Ohio bill of rights: § 1.03 Right to assemble: "The people have the right to assemble together, in a peaceable manner, to consult for their common good; to instruct their representatives; and to petition the general assembly for the redress of grievances." So if the people have the right to assemble together, in a peaceable manner, to consult for their common good and do it on the public square in Northwood, then Northwood would not have much power to object.

Oh, but I bet they would!

McGyver · Post by **McGyver** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:23 am

Front page, Jack. Here ya go, but it is a pay site!

http://www.tednugent.com/HUNTING/forums ... 45302.aspx