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Liberty Center now CPZ

Postby wls » Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:34 pm

Just noticed the roads into Liberty Center are now posted.
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Re: Liberty Center now CPZ

Postby Cruiser » Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:01 pm

wls wrote:Just noticed the roads into Liberty Center are now posted.

Are you talking about a town?
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Re: Liberty Center now CPZ

Postby Brian D. » Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:04 pm

Just for clarity let's be a little more specific about the location: It's a new retail/lodging/residential complex off I-75 exit #24 (?) in Butler County. Since there are apartments-townhomes there along with the stores, restaurants and hotels, this sounds like more reason to urge the current OGA lineup to step back a skosh from their absolutist view that "Private property rights must not be questioned!"

I think an interesting discussion will ensue here very quickly.
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Re: Liberty Center now CPZ

Postby wls » Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:06 pm

Liberty Center is an outdoor shopping center in Butler county. Opened less then a year ago and as just posted. I believe the developer is the same one who developed Easton in Columbus.
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Re: Liberty Center now CPZ

Postby Brian D. » Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:11 pm

I wonder if the people who live there were told before renting/buying a home that they would have to sacrifice their 2A rights?
The Ohio Constitution is similarly pesky about protecting one's right to keep and bear arms.
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Re: Liberty Center now CPZ

Postby Brian D. » Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:19 pm

The road going by there, and the township it's located in, already had the name Liberty. The developer must have a keen sense of humor.
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Re: Liberty Center now CPZ

Postby JediSkipdogg » Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:02 pm

I'm wondering if they are posted because of the Facebook issue from a group a few days ago. Supposedly some people were stopped for sitting on the curb next to their racer style car. Security told them to move along to which they gave some push back on as they were waiting for a friend. The police (which they always have 1-2 deputies assigned there) came over and in their talking noticed one of them had a firearm. They told them it was a CPZ.

The Facebook police then went on about it being posted, advising to contact attorneys for how they were handled, yada, yada, yada. And now it's posted. I would say the two went hand in hand.
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Re: Liberty Center now CPZ

Postby Brian D. » Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:29 pm

If I'd bought a townhouse there and suddenly seen No Guns signs afterwards, someone in the ownership group would be getting a kick in the jimmies. Maybe literally.
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Re: Liberty Center now CPZ

Postby JediSkipdogg » Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:43 pm

Brian D. wrote:If I'd bought a townhouse there and suddenly seen No Guns signs afterwards, someone in the ownership group would be getting a kick in the jimmies. Maybe literally.


I would sorta concur, but it's actually been on the rules since they opened. I know, I was there the first week they opened the center (before housing opened) and saw the code of conduct or whatever you want to call it. So I would assume they advised tenants of that since day one.

Now, what would be interesting is how 2923.126(C)(3)(b) comes into play...

A landlord may not prohibit or restrict a tenant who is a licensee and who on or after September 9, 2008, enters into a rental agreement with the landlord for the use of residential premises, and the tenant's guest while the tenant is present, from lawfully carrying or possessing a handgun on those residential premises.

So they can't restrict the tenant in their apartment. I would say premises even covers some of the grounds, so what extent is "residential" vs "commercial"?
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Re: Liberty Center now CPZ

Postby Brian D. » Thu Jul 07, 2016 5:31 am

That part of the ORC is what would have me fired up if I lived there.
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Re: Liberty Center now CPZ

Postby Cruiser » Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:27 am

wls wrote:Liberty Center is an outdoor shopping center in Butler county. Opened less then a year ago and as just posted. I believe the developer is the same one who developed Easton in Columbus.

For the sake of clarity it is also a town North East of Lima in Ohio.

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Re: Liberty Center now CPZ

Postby Brian D. » Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:01 am

I visit Cabela's across the road from Liberty Center once in a while. Next time there I'll waste a few No Guns = No Money cards on the management of the complex.
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Re: Liberty Center now CPZ

Postby MyWifeSaidYes » Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:01 am

Wait.

We are OKAY with telling a LANDLORD, the legal owner of a parcel of private property, that they CANNOT restrict firearm possession from their 'residential' tenants?

But in the next breath, we are OKAY with the LANDLORD, the legal owner of a parcel of private property, that they CAN restrict firearm possession to their 'commercial' tenants?

Really?

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Re: Liberty Center now CPZ

Postby J_86 » Sat Jul 09, 2016 5:57 pm

Well, I find this very interesting. I live at one of the Liberty Center apartment buildings.

I had not noticed the new signs , when I saw this I walked around and sure enough they are posted now. They must of just gone up in the last few weeks. :evil:
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Re: Liberty Center now CPZ

Postby Brian D. » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:43 pm

J_86 wrote:Well, I find this very interesting. I live at one of the Liberty Center apartment buildings.

I had not noticed the new signs , when I saw this I walked around and sure enough they are posted now. They must of just gone up in the last few weeks. :evil:


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