BOB EVANS CORPORATE POLICY

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Does it really bother you guys that much that you can't browse the Glock website on the Wifi network at Bob Evans?

You call the corporate office, and they're going to have no idea what you're even talking about.
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It doesn't necessarily bother me that they elect to block certain sites from their complimentary wi-fi service but there's a part of me that wonders if it is truly a shotgun technique to block a wide-array of sites or an over-zealous IT guy with an agenda. I wonder - do they block access to the Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence website?
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I don't own a computer so I've seen a lot of strange filtering parameters on systems available for public use. Without having the filters removed, one county library in northern Ky. will allow access to these forums but not the OFCC main site, for example. Got better things to worry about myself.
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djhobbes wrote:It doesn't necessarily bother me that they elect to block certain sites from their complimentary wi-fi service but there's a part of me that wonders if it is truly a shotgun technique to block a wide-array of sites or an over-zealous IT guy with an agenda. I wonder - do they block access to the Ohio Coalition Against Gun Violence website?
Like other's have said it's a catch all type thing. They don't go in and block http://www.glock.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and http://www.ruger.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and http://www.kahr.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. They block "weapons." My work blocks Messageboards and Forums, however, I can still get to BFA and OFCC. Isn't this a forum I'm on now? It's all based on metatag keywords and what the filters pick up on. I can go to Panera and not get to many firearm sites, but I can get to all of OFCC. Glock is blowed because of "Firearms." Is this not a website dealing with firearms? Blocking websites is tough especially if they don't have the right metatarsi to pick up on for blocking.
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Without having the filters removed, one county library in northern Ky. will allow access to these forums but not the OFCC main site, for example.
Libraries are usually required to do so as part of the Children's Internet Protection Act in order to receive funding - This, however only applies to minors. To my knowledge and in accordance with most library policies, if an adult requests that all content filtering be disabled, the library staff must comply. As such, the software must be designed to be disabled upon request.

Private corporation has no such obligation and can allow or disallow whatever they jolly well choose
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Beskar'gam wrote:Libraries are usually required to do so as part of the Children's Internet Protection Act in order to receive funding
Technically, you first qualify for ERate, funding for poorer libraries or districts. Once you accept that funding you are then required to follow CIPA. The school where I work gets ERate funding. If I knowingly allow a child to get to a porn website I am guilty of a felony. Unfortunately it isn't very specific on what we should block. (e) Is the problem one, we have to figure out what Congress meant with 'materials harmful to them'.

"Schools and libraries subject to CIPA are required to adopt and implement an Internet safety policy addressing: (a) access by minors to inappropriate matter on the Internet; (b) the safety and security of minors when using electronic mail, chat rooms and other forms of direct electronic communications; (c) unauthorized access, including so-called “hacking,” and other unlawful activities by minors online; (d) unauthorized disclosure, use, and dissemination of personal information regarding minors; and (e) measures restricting minors’ access to materials harmful to them."
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Precisely - I went for the CliffNotes version :wink:

It's a little different for a public library - a lot of the ones that don't even qualify simply do it as a matter of course. It's easier to block than monitor, I suppose.
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Frankly its their router and their money paying for it. It is being offered as a courtesy and to keep you in there spending. If you don't want to stay then find a restaurant that doesn't block. They are out there.

If I said as you walked into my house, "please don't view porn on your device while using my internet", would that make you mad? After all its my dime paying for the service and my wireless router signal broadcasting the internet.
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pleasantguywhopacks wrote:If I said as you walked into my house, "please don't view porn on your device while using my internet", would that make you mad?
Nah, I'd park out on the street :wink:

Always a good idea to password protect private networks anyways. If BE, or any other business that offers wi-fi were smart, they'd give customers the password with their menu and change it daily.
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Beskar'gam wrote:If BE, or any other business that offers wi-fi were smart, they'd give customers the password with their menu and change it daily.
And what exactly would that accomplish other than generating a lot of work for the non-technical wait staff? Heaven forbid someone forget to update the menus or a "1" becomes a "I". In commercial installations like this one the on-premises personnel have absolutely nothing to do with the wifi service; it's all handled remotely.

It would be trivial for someone to walk in wearing a hat, look at a menu and walk out. Nobody would ever notice especially during the rush times. Password protecting public access points is about the same as locking your car doors but leaving the windows down and the trunk open.
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This is overkill, who cares about the stupid WIFI, I go there to eat a pretty darn good meal for a good price and they're not posted so that's good enough for me. :wink:

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AzRanger wrote:This overkill, who cares about the stupid WIFI, I go there to eat a pretty darn good meal for a good price and they're not posted so that's good enough for me. :wink:

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Yeah! Anybody who wants to boycott Bob Evans over this...may your smart phone get dropped in a pot of steaming hot BE sausage gravy!
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AzRanger wrote:This is overkill, who cares about the stupid WIFI, I go there to eat a pretty darn good meal for a good price and they're not posted so that's good enough for me. :wink:

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I thought we were talking about Bob Evans. What restaurant are YOU talking about? :lol:
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join or die wrote:
AzRanger wrote:This is overkill, who cares about the stupid WIFI, I go there to eat a pretty darn good meal for a good price and they're not posted so that's good enough for me. :wink:

AzRanger
I thought we were talking about Bob Evans. What restaurant are YOU talking about? :lol:
Them prices DO keep goin' up and up. (I don't get the senior discount...yet)
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Businesses offering wifi to customers are not responsible for use. It isn't a school.
Not going to stop me from eating there though.
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