Ross County - upcoming renewal

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Ross County - upcoming renewal

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Earlier this year, I contacted the Ross County Sheriff's Office because of an additional form they were requiring CHL applicants to fill out.

The form asked questions about an applicant's mental health history and medication use. This form was NOT authorized by Ohio law and the Sheriff's office did NOT inform applicants that filling out the form was voluntary.

When I asked for a copy of a BLANK FORM, which should have been provided as an open record under Ohio law, my request was refused TWICE by the deputy that runs the CHL desk.

To his credit, Sheriff Lavender corrected the situation. This form (I am told) is no longer used.

Now for part 2...

Ross county is one of those that wants to see your original training certificate if you are renewing from a different county. As many of you know, this is NOT a requirement under Ohio law.

I spoke with the deputy last week and told her that this wasn't required. She replied that "...some other Sheriffs may have accepted credentials that we wouldn't have..." as the reason for requiring the certificate.

While getting to pick and choose is not something the Sheriff is authorized to do under Ohio law, they ARE supposed to verify a few items regarding the competency certificate...except for a renewal. There is NO requirement for ANY competency certificate as part of a renewal, under Ohio law.

On a topic that bothers me on a personal level, the deputy in question is still requiring that an applicant certify TO HER that one has read the CHL manual. I say "still" because I pointed this out to her during our last encounter. As this particular certification is part of the actual application, there is NO requirement that an applicant certify anything TO HER (say it with me) under Ohio law.

Why am I writing this TL;DR worthy missive now? Simple...

I live in an adjoining county. I have PURPOSELY allowed my Ohio CHL to expire. I will be renewing in Ross county, with the deputy in question.

All I am looking for is for the Sheriff (and deputies) to follow the law, just like they demand of us.

If those that are elected and hired to enforce the law DO NOT KNOW or DO NOT FOLLOW the laws, I will politely advise them so that corrections can be made. I have informed the deputy without success. I will attempt to contact the Sheriff on Monday, or at least leave a voicemail, advising him of my concerns. Hopefully, things will go smoothly at my renewal appointment.

As an open carrier, it won't really affect me if they decide to..."be thorough"...and stretch my renewal out the full 45 days.

Wish me luck? :twisted:
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I wish you luck & give you a lot of credit for all you do!
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Document, document, document. If they can give you the runaround, and call you a liar, they will.
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docachna wrote:Document, document, document. If they can give you the runaround, and call you a liar, they will.
Bear in mind, everyone, that Ohio is a "one party knowledge" state where it comes to recording conversations.
That means that ONLY you need to be aware that YOU are using a voice recorder during all conversations in which you are a party.
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Go get 'em, and good luck MWSY!
MyWifeSaidYes wrote:As an open carrier, it won't really affect me if they decide to..."be thorough"...and stretch my renewal out the full 45 days.
Other than the inconvenience of unloading and properly storing before entering a motor vehicle of course. (I know you know this MWSY, that's more for the casual reader who may not be aware.)
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JustaShooter wrote:Go get 'em, and good luck MWSY!
Yes. Thanks for your dedication to the cause!
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For being a pain in their.....uh....thorn in their side, they'll probably take the full 45 days on purpose, too.

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Good luck. Also thank you for your service to our cause.
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If needed I can bring mustard for any bologna sandwiches served to MWSY during incarceration at the Ross County jail.
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Brian D. wrote:If needed I can bring mustard for any bologna sandwiches served to MWSY during incarceration at the Ross County jail.
Pardon me, do you have any Grey Poupon?
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MyWifeSaidYes wrote:
Brian D. wrote:If needed I can bring mustard for any bologna sandwiches served to MWSY during incarceration at the Ross County jail.
Pardon me, do you have any Grey Poupon?
Grey Poupon? That stuff's made in New York City :shock: !!!!
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