leaving gun in car
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leaving gun in car
I plan to be with my father in a few days and we will be driving and making several stops. I have a ccw license although he does not. One or more stops that I need to make are no gun zones, my father will be waiting in the car. Can I leave my gun (loaded) in the car while he waits. Would I need to lock it up each time or would I be able to place it in a glove box or center console.
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Re: leaving gun in car
You can't leave the gun in the car with your father if he has access to it. If you have a trunk, I would suggest unloading it and placing it there or locking it in the glove box and not leaving him with a key to those areas. Otherwise, take a range bag or other container with you, unload the gun and place it and the ammunition in separate sections of the bag where each section closes with a snap, clasp, velcro or something similar.
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Re: leaving gun in car
Did you laugh out loud when you wrote that part?schmieg wrote:...but that is the wisdom imparted by our legislators.
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Re: leaving gun in car
He did not specify that these stops would be within Ohio.
If he is going out of state, the situation complicates.
If he is going out of state, the situation complicates.
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Re: leaving gun in car
Buy a one gun locking security container that can be locked to the seat frame with a cable and lock. Keep the key on your person.
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Re: leaving gun in car
That still falls afoul of ORC 2923.16 (C)deanimator wrote:Buy a one gun locking security container that can be locked to the seat frame with a cable and lock. Keep the key on your person.
It must be unloaded for it to be in the motor vehicle if there is an unlicensed person in the vehicle. I know, it makes no sense that this section doesn't include the "in such a manner that the firearm is accessible to the operator or any passenger" language that is included in section (B), and it may be that a given LEO won't split that particular hair, but I certainly wouldn't want to be the one to risk it.(C) No person shall knowingly transport or have a firearm in a motor vehicle, unless the person may lawfully possess that firearm under applicable law of this state or the United States, the firearm is unloaded, and the firearm is carried in one of the following ways:
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Re: leaving gun in car
Thanks for the replys. We will be in Ohio, It is getting harder for him to get around so I am helping him take care of his errands. I do have a locking case with the Cable it has a combination lock I thought about either putting that under my seat or in the truck but was not sure if I had to separate the ammo or if I can lock it while it is loaded. It is kinda a pita although we will be going to some questionable areas and this is kinda the reason to have a ccw. If I put the gun in the trunk and lock the case would I need to still separate the ammo and if so can I put that inside the car like in the center console
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Re: leaving gun in car
No, because the impact is really not that funny.Stryker74 wrote:Did you laugh out loud when you wrote that part?schmieg wrote:...but that is the wisdom imparted by our legislators.
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Re: leaving gun in car
Justashooter posted part of 2923.16(C). Here is the rest of it:cyy wrote:Thanks for the replys. We will be in Ohio, It is getting harder for him to get around so I am helping him take care of his errands. I do have a locking case with the Cable it has a combination lock I thought about either putting that under my seat or in the truck but was not sure if I had to separate the ammo or if I can lock it while it is loaded. It is kinda a pita although we will be going to some questionable areas and this is kinda the reason to have a ccw. If I put the gun in the trunk and lock the case would I need to still separate the ammo and if so can I put that inside the car like in the center console
The ammo must be in a separate container that closes with a latch or clasp etc.(C) No person shall knowingly transport or have a firearm in a motor vehicle, unless the person may lawfully possess that firearm under applicable law of this state or the United States, the firearm is unloaded, and the firearm is carried in one of the following ways:
(1) In a closed package, box, or case;
(2) In a compartment that can be reached only by leaving the vehicle;
(3) In plain sight and secured in a rack or holder made for the purpose;
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Re: leaving gun in car
Thanks again for the replys. Would I need to empty the magazine or can I place the loaded magazine in a separate container?
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Re: leaving gun in car
Loaded magazines in a separate enclosure that closes with a latch, clasp, velcro, zipper, etc. are OK
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Re: leaving gun in car
Unload, including the chamber, secure the gun, take the ammo with you.
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Re: leaving gun in car
In Ohio, there is no legal requirement to take the ammo with you. It can be left in the car if stored as mentioned in earlier posts.Scoutmaster wrote:Unload, including the chamber, secure the gun, take the ammo with you.
This is important in case the CPZ (Criminal Protection Zone) you're entering may not allow you to carry ammo, even though you are without a firearm.
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Re: leaving gun in car
Most Sheriff stations are that way - important to remember when you renew.MyWifeSaidYes wrote:In Ohio, there is no legal requirement to take the ammo with you. It can be left in the car if stored as mentioned in earlier posts.Scoutmaster wrote:Unload, including the chamber, secure the gun, take the ammo with you.
This is important in case the CPZ (Criminal Protection Zone) you're entering may not allow you to carry ammo, even though you are without a firearm.
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Re: leaving gun in car
Had a friend bring this up. He has Ohio CHL, his wife doesn't. They run errands, shop, etc together. Mostly he gets out of vehicle to go in the stores, wife stays in vehicle. He admitted to leaving gun behind in the console, loaded, sometimes. We went over his options:
1) Wife could get CHL
2) Wife could go into the stores instead of him
3) He could take gun with him each time*
4) He could unload /legally secure gun errand by errand*
5) He could keep gun holstered on himself while driving, and suck up being uncomfortable
6) He could keep doing like now and roll dice with the legal system every day.
* Numbers 3 and 4 above involve WAY too much needless handling of a firearm in a confined space in my opinion.
There may be more options than what I rattled off, but those seemed like enough to choose from.
1) Wife could get CHL
2) Wife could go into the stores instead of him
3) He could take gun with him each time*
4) He could unload /legally secure gun errand by errand*
5) He could keep gun holstered on himself while driving, and suck up being uncomfortable
6) He could keep doing like now and roll dice with the legal system every day.
* Numbers 3 and 4 above involve WAY too much needless handling of a firearm in a confined space in my opinion.
There may be more options than what I rattled off, but those seemed like enough to choose from.
Quit worrying, hide your gun well, shut up, and CARRY that handgun!
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