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carmen fovozzo wrote:AGainst the law is against the law...

ONe beer one joint, both against the law while carrying.
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Not to mention states like PA, where I can visit Quaker Steak & Lube with the family, have a Guinness with my wings & fries, and not disarm.
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carmen fovozzo wrote:AGainst the law is against the law...

ONe beer one joint, both against the law while carrying.
Where is one beer against the law while carrying? I must have missed that part of the law.

In a Class D yes. At home no. Nowhere does it say it's against the law to drink and drive. If you can find that section, please post it for me.
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JonasM wrote:Not to mention states like PA, where I can visit Quaker Steak & Lube with the family, have a Guinness with my wings & fries, and not disarm.
Heck, many police departments back in the day use to allow officers to drink on duty in full uniform. It was a one beer limit with a meal, but it was allowed.
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I presume that the " Don't drink and drive " signs are just hog wash...

NOt to Mention that beer Made today can have a alcohol content over 9%. SO one beer might just put you over the legal limit.
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carmen fovozzo wrote:I presume that the " Don't drink and drive " signs are just hog wash...

NOt to Mention that beer Made today can have a alcohol content over 9%. SO one beer might just put you over the legal limit.
True that, one Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Ale at 9.2% will knock me on my butt, one Blatz will make me want to wash my mouth out.
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pirateguy191 wrote:
carmen fovozzo wrote:AGainst the law is against the law...

ONe beer one joint, both against the law while carrying.
Come on over for some good bourbon Friday evening Carmen.
Dude, Bedford is a tuff town..I would have to disarm....ain't going to happen....but thanks for the invite..
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Javelin Man wrote:
carmen fovozzo wrote:I presume that the " Don't drink and drive " signs are just hog wash...

NOt to Mention that beer Made today can have a alcohol content over 9%. SO one beer might just put you over the legal limit.
True that, one Kentucky Bourbon Barrel Ale at 9.2% will knock me on my butt, one Blatz will make me want to wash my mouth out.
Poor mans beer..
They still make Blatz ?
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carmen fovozzo wrote:
pirateguy191 wrote:
carmen fovozzo wrote:AGainst the law is against the law...

ONe beer one joint, both against the law while carrying.
Come on over for some good bourbon Friday evening Carmen.
Dude, Bedford is a tuff town..I would have to disarm....ain't going to happen....but thanks for the invite..
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I've seen you shoot when you're sober, no thanks. :wink:
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I'm pretty sure the ORC says one drink while carrying is against the law. I am going to assume that means if you've consumed any alcohol, don't go back to the car and strap up for the drive home.

If you happen to have the gun in the car, unload it. I would even go as far as unloading the magazine(s). Lock the gun and unloaded mags in the safe in the trunk or back of the SUV (so you'd have to stop the vehicle and get out to get the gun). Bullets wherever you decide to put them.

Probably best to resist having that beer, but at least with the gun put away at that way, you couldn't just insert the magazine and fire - you'd have to put at least one round in the magazine.
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Thanlon23 wrote:I'm pretty sure the ORC says one drink while carrying is against the law.

No.
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I'd love to have one drink before dinner when I'm out....gun in the back with mag out....or what ever....

But I weigh the protection of my family and my self much more important then the one Bloody Mary , wine or a beer....I want my protection on my hip, not in the back seat...

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Thanlon23 wrote:I'm pretty sure the ORC says one drink while carrying is against the law.
You're mostly wrong, but I'll start with how you're right.

2923.121 Possession of firearm in beer liquor permit premises - prohibition, exceptions - says that no one can have a gun in a place that sells alcohol for onsite consumption. It makes some exceptions including CHL holders "as long as the person is not consuming beer or intoxicating liquor or under the influence of alcohol or a drug of abuse." So if you're in a bar or restaurant, you can have your gun if you've got a CHL but cannot have even a single drink.

Other than that, the prohibition against guns & alcohol comes from 2923.15 Using weapons while intoxicated
No person, while under the influence of alcohol or any drug of abuse, shall carry or use any firearm or dangerous ordnance.
Note the phrase "under the influence". That's the same language as in ORC 4511.19 Operating vehicle under the influence of alcohol or drugs - OVI. Meaning: If you're too under the influence to have a gun then you're too under the influence to drive.
Thanlon23 wrote:I am going to assume that means if you've consumed any alcohol, don't go back to the car and strap up for the drive home.
That's a reasonable way to behave. It's not legally required, but it's not a bad idea.
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DontTreadOnMe wrote:
Thanlon23 wrote:I'm pretty sure the ORC says one drink while carrying is against the law.
You're mostly wrong, but I'll start with how you're right.

2923.121 Possession of firearm in beer liquor permit premises - prohibition, exceptions - says that no one can have a gun in a place that sells alcohol for onsite consumption. It makes some exceptions including CHL holders "as long as the person is not consuming beer or intoxicating liquor or under the influence of alcohol or a drug of abuse." So if you're in a bar or restaurant, you can have your gun if you've got a CHL but cannot have even a single drink.

Other than that, the prohibition against guns & alcohol comes from 2923.15 Using weapons while intoxicated
No person, while under the influence of alcohol or any drug of abuse, shall carry or use any firearm or dangerous ordnance.
Note the phrase "under the influence". That's the same language as in ORC 4511.19 Operating vehicle under the influence of alcohol or drugs - OVI. Meaning: If you're too under the influence to have a gun then you're too under the influence to drive.
Thanlon23 wrote:I am going to assume that means if you've consumed any alcohol, don't go back to the car and strap up for the drive home.
That's a reasonable way to behave. It's not legally required, but it's not a bad idea.
I like my answer better. :wink:
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