Checked bag, flying type, questions

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painiac
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Re: Checked bag, flying type, questions

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Werz wrote:
painiac wrote:There's a great side benefit to declaring a firearm: your bag gets a special tag code, and they treat it extra careful because the airline does not want to be responsible for losing track of a weapon in their care.
Some people (non-gun owners, even) will take advantage of this by always traveling with a cheap "starter" pistol, simply for the fact that it's classified as a weapon and has to be declared as such, which moves the entire bag into a higher classification of luggage.
I disagree. They won't touch the gun in the case, but they may steal a knife and tactical pen. Been there.
Of course, if somebody is inclined to steal items from luggage you aren't allowed to keep in your possession, then no measures can stop them. What I'm referring to is the fact that they will not misplace your entire bag because it's tagged as a weapon case.
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Re: Checked bag, flying type, questions

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OK my experience in CVG:

CVG: Ticket agent says that I have to have TSA locks on the hard box, inside my soft luggage. I start to argue, then realize there is no point ("that's the way this airport works"), so I say YUP they sure are. She hands me the orange tag, I sign and proceed to loop the tag string around the box handle. She says that if they have to tear off the tag (string) to "open the box" then I would need to fill out another tag. uh-oooh-"open the box" without keys? OK.....so I just take off the tag and put it on top of the box that is mixed with my other packed stuff (Hanes, sock, holsters, hiking gear), and know thay will have a hard time finding the tag if they really look for it after tumbling down the chute. She says, step aside, and wait-- I ask where and she says anywhere. I sit on a nearby wheelchair, while waiting, I try to phone search the articles saying TSA locks are "illegal". 10 minutes later she waves a thumb at me. Battle averted.

PHX: different experience, agent escorted me down to the TSA area where they processed my bag as I watched (elevator supposedly was not working and she wanted me to carry the heavy bag in case it wasn't). I don't want to give away details, but I would not recommend putting any type of securement device on the outer luggage (zip ties, locks etc.): in the back room they do need to get inside the main bag/case.
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Re: Checked bag, flying type, questions

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CCIman wrote:OK my experience in CVG:

CVG: Ticket agent says that I have to have TSA locks on the hard box, inside my soft luggage. I start to argue, then realize there is no point ("that's the way this airport works"), so I say YUP they sure are. She hands me the orange tag, I sign and proceed to loop the tag string around the box handle. She says that if they have to tear off the tag (string) to "open the box" then I would need to fill out another tag. uh-oooh-"open the box" without keys? OK.....so I just take off the tag and put it on top of the box that is mixed with my other packed stuff (Hanes, sock, holsters, hiking gear), and know thay will have a hard time finding the tag if they really look for it after tumbling down the chute. She says, step aside, and wait-- I ask where and she says anywhere. I sit on a nearby wheelchair, while waiting, I try to phone search the articles saying TSA locks are "illegal". 10 minutes later she waves a thumb at me. Battle averted.

PHX: different experience, agent escorted me down to the TSA area where they processed my bag as I watched (elevator supposedly was not working and she wanted me to carry the heavy bag in case it wasn't). I don't want to give away details, but I would not recommend putting any type of securement device on the outer luggage (zip ties, locks etc.): in the back room they do need to get inside the main bag/case.
Untrained ticket agents...... the orange tag should be put inside you locked container with your firearm.

I would also say in the PHX example, once your bag is scanned at the TSA station there is no reason anyone should be going in it at all. Always lock or zip tie your outer bag. Also one of my handgun container has a combination lock and cable that I secure it with to the larger outer bag. Never had an issue, open the case put the orange tag in, lock it up, close up and lock the outer bag, have it scanned by the TSA, pick it up at my destination. Easy as pie :-)
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