Carrying at work, question

[carmen fovozzo]

Have a lawyer call the PD and insist this is a real threat.....if something does go down your lawyer can make it hard on the Police for not policing..exactly what I would do....not that I would ever get into that kind of situation..

[JediSkipdogg]

Have a lawyer call the PD and insist this is a real threat.....if something does go down your lawyer can make it hard on the Police for not policing..exactly what I would do....not that I would ever get into that kind of situation..

How? The Supreme Court has already ruled numerous times (one being a rape case where police simply drove by the house without stopping) that police have no duty to protect you even if they know a crime is going to occur. So not much a lawyer can do in a case like that.

[carmen fovozzo]

Your on record a crime is about to take place at closing..police know what time it will be..so does the lawyer.

[deanimator]

Your on record a crime is about to take place at closing..police know what time it will be..so does the lawyer.

You have no legal leg on which to stand.

The cop can stand there and WATCH you get slaughtered; outside of some EXCEPTIONALLY narrow circumstances, the law says you can pound sand.

Protect yourself or don't get protected AT ALL.

I learned that lesson forty years ago in Fulton, Missouri.

[carmen fovozzo]

sure...it will look great when she is shot to death after work...or better yet, tell the police if you can't come I will have my friends waiting for me after work and they we'll be carrying AR's and AK's..they just might show up then...The PD's that I have had to call over the years will come when asked even for a lot less....sounds like this PD needs some publicity ...

[deanimator]

sure...it will look great when she is shot to death after work...or better yet, tell the police if you can't come I will have my friends waiting for me after work and they we'll be carrying AR's and AK's..they just might show up then...The PD's that I have had to call over the years will come when asked even for a lot less....sounds like this PD needs some publicity ...

It doesn't matter one iota how it "looks".

No legal duty = no legal liability.

If the owners don't mind, you can put in a sandbagged emplacement with a 37mm Pom Pom gun in the business, so long as it's legally registered under the NFA. What the department thinks about it or a couple of Kalashnikovs or ARs is purely academic. They have no LEGAL authority to intervene if no crime is being committed. And as previously discussed, they have no legal DUTY.

[M-Quigley]

Warning I am not a lawyer.

My understanding is if it is not posted she can carry. If her employer has said that employees cannot carry she could be fired but that would be the only issue. Note: Some companies have fired employees after they have defended themselves, because they violated company policy. (Of course the employee is alive which may not have been the case if they were unarmed.)

Its a store in northern Columbus. She said that its definitely not posted, which irritated her because I could go in as a customer and carry but store policy is that employees cant.
I have been under the impression that without the gun buster sign being posted in a conspicuous place that the law wont prosecute, but company policy would likely cause her to be fired.

Almost every place I've ever worked for, (with the obvious exception of security and LE) has had the same policy r/t employees, no carrying of weapons. In addition to company policy, one place even had a gun buster sign posted at the employee entrance, but not at the customer entrance.

[deanimator]

Almost every place I've ever worked for, (with the obvious exception of security and LE) has had the same policy r/t employees, no carrying of weapons. In addition to company policy, one place even had a gun buster sign posted at the employee entrance, but not at the customer entrance.

My employer when I got my CHL not only allowed me to carry, he encouraged it.

Of course my predecessor was a convicted felon who had been fired for embezzlement, theft, check kiting, and forgery, and who had threatened the owner...

[Ole_grizzly]

A friend works at a company here in town and she was threatened by a black female and family recently.

What difference does it make that she was black? There was nothing else in the post to suggest it was racially motivated. If race is a relevant factor in a discussion I'm all for bringing it up. When it's not, I don't see the point. And it also doesn't make sense that the customer wanted a full refund even though they weren't returning all the items, not even the biggest of idiots would get upset enough about trying to pull a scam that they would threaten to shoot up the place when it didn't work.

[WhyNot]

What's the BUSINESS doing about it? Did the employee tell the boss, and get the big shrugged shoulders I-don't-know-what-to-do look?
Seems the business bears some burden here. At a minimum filing some type of restraint against the perpcustomer

[JediSkipdogg]

What's the BUSINESS doing about it? Did the employee tell the boss, and get the big shrugged shoulders I-don't-know-what-to-do look?
Seems the business bears some burden here. At a minimum filing some type of restraint against the perpcustomer

Businesses can't really file restraint. The best they can do is via a method that can be used in law, tell the person they are not welcome on the property. If they violate said request, they can be arrested for trespassing. This method can be in person recorded, in front of LEO to get it on their record, or via certified mail.

An individual being threatened at the business can file a restraining order.

[gaptrick]

And who is "CPD"?? Cleveland? Canton? Cincinnati" Coshocton? Conneaut? I could go on... Without a location in your profile we guess at who is or isn't being cooperative.

[carmen fovozzo]

Columbus PD....he said as much...

[concreteguy]

Columbus PD....he said as much...

The 7th post.

[WeinerDog]

If this is all true, sounds like she needs family and friends to step up and escort her from work at the end of the day.......that is if the police truly refused.

I asked her if she wanted me to come up and hang out but she said no.
I dont think she wants anyone else involved in case something does happen.

I agree with Jeff and my friendship parameters would have me there ensuring she gets to her car and home safely even if I do it without her knowledge. I have done this for my daughter in the past. I'm sure the " don't get involved crowd" will chime in but friendship HAS stand for something.