Your favorite gun store
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Re: Your favorite gun store
I try to ask FFL dealers about that at gun shows. Kind of a quick way to survey a decent amount of shops. The number who accept the post-March 23 2015 Ohio CHL as NICS-compliant and don't call/email in (after the 4473 is filled out of course) seems to be growing. But of course, many of them were anxious to make the switch since there are weekends that the system is very busy and time consuming. Kind of a pain when you've got a customer who might live 100+ miles from the FFL's shop waiting there, he/she isn't going to want to drop by the store days later, because of the snafu, to actually pick up their purchase.
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Re: Your favorite gun store
I was wondering if any of them would be reluctant to skip the NICS because they were afraid of legal consequences if customer got in trouble afterwards (or beforehand...after all a license is just a piece of plastic). You know, CYA? I guess the new law gives the dealers some sort of protection.Brian D. wrote:I try to ask FFL dealers about that at gun shows. Kind of a quick way to survey a decent amount of shops. The number who accept the post-March 23 2015 Ohio CHL as NICS-compliant and don't call/email in (after the 4473 is filled out of course) seems to be growing. But of course, many of them were anxious to make the switch since there are weekends that the system is very busy and time consuming. Kind of a pain when you've got a customer who might live 100+ miles from the FFL's shop waiting there, he/she isn't going to want to drop by the store days later, because of the snafu, to actually pick up their purchase.
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Re: Your favorite gun store
Many do not for exactly that reason. And, there is an insurance-like company called FFL Guard that many FFLs use that recommends their members *not* accept a CHL issued March 23, 2015 or later because there is no guarantee that it has not been revoked or suspended. Apparently, sheriffs are not required to (and apparently some do not) seize the license when it is revoked or suspended and the FFLs have no way to check the status of a license.glocksmith wrote:I was wondering if any of them would be reluctant to skip the NICS because they were afraid of legal consequences if customer got in trouble afterwards (or beforehand...after all a license is just a piece of plastic). You know, CYA? I guess the new law gives the dealers some sort of protection.Brian D. wrote:I try to ask FFL dealers about that at gun shows. Kind of a quick way to survey a decent amount of shops. The number who accept the post-March 23 2015 Ohio CHL as NICS-compliant and don't call/email in (after the 4473 is filled out of course) seems to be growing. But of course, many of them were anxious to make the switch since there are weekends that the system is very busy and time consuming. Kind of a pain when you've got a customer who might live 100+ miles from the FFL's shop waiting there, he/she isn't going to want to drop by the store days later, because of the snafu, to actually pick up their purchase.
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Re: Your favorite gun store
On the surface this "have a CHL...no NICS" seems like a good thing...saves time and less of a PITA to both dealer and customer...but it also highly resembles the process in other countries where strict gun control measures of licensing and registration are mandatory. In most overseas countries allowing private citizens to own guns, there is a process of safety training, then applying with the police department, fees, background checks, more fees...sound familiar???...after which you are issued some sort of license ("gun card" in Canada) and/or document which you can flash to the gun dealer whenever you want to buy something.
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You mean like a FOID card issued in the republik of Illinois? Seriously glocksmith, you make a good point.glocksmith wrote:On the surface this "have a CHL...no NICS" seems like a good thing...saves time and less of a PITA to both dealer and customer...but it also highly resembles the process in other countries where strict gun control measures of licensing and registration are mandatory. In most overseas countries allowing private citizens to own guns, there is a process of safety training, then applying with the police department, fees, background checks, more fees...sound familiar???...after which you are issued some sort of license ("gun card" in Canada) and/or document which you can flash to the gun dealer whenever you want to buy something.
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Re: Your favorite gun store
I picked up another Shield 9mm in January at Sportsman's Den in Shelby. My CHL is dated in April 2015. I filled out the 4473 and they looked at my CHL and said since it was post-3/25/15, they didn't need to run it. Good thing because the computer lines were down and I drove over an hour to get there.
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Re: Your favorite gun store
Kentucky and Indiana residents have been able to use their state's CHLs to bypass the NICS check for several years now. Once again, Ohio lawmakers late to the party.
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Re: Your favorite gun store
Maybe....were they invited ?Brian D. wrote:Kentucky and Indiana residents have been able to use their state's CHLs to bypass the NICS check for several years now. Once again, Ohio lawmakers late to the party.
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Re: Your favorite gun store
It appears to be every two years that the State Lawmakers get invited to the party.