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Post Office parking lot?

Postby Birdman » Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:10 pm

Is this true? A Post Office parking lot is a no gun zone? Even in a locked glove compartment in a public parking lot (non-employee)?
Also, I saw a sign in a Post Office window that says your vehicle and person are subject to search?
WTH"eck"?

USPS spokesperson Joanne Vito told the Examiner.com that 39 CFR 232.1(l)

“applies to anyone coming into a Post Office or a Postal facility. The regulation prohibiting the possession of firearms or other weapons applies to all real property under the charge and control of the Postal Service. . . . Both open and concealed possession are prohibited, so storage of a weapon on a car parked in a lot that is under the charge and control of the Postal Service would be prohibited.”

Philip Van Cleave, President of the Virginia Citizens Defense League . . . said that the Postal Service is just “setting a trap” for the many gun owners who now carry their guns on a daily basis and may not even know about this parking lot gun ban. “Even the National Park gun ban allowed folks to store their guns in their cars,” said Van Cleave . .
Examiner.com article



Did I miss something in class? I certainly knew not to carry concealed inside, but I can't even leave it in the car?
I can send a long gun by USPS. Just how do I do that? Give the gun a heave-ho through the window from the street?

B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U. S. Postal Service?

A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. A nonlicensee may not transfer any firearm to a nonlicensed resident of another state. The Postal Service recommends that longguns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms.

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Re: Post Office parking lot?

Postby Imcrazy » Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:22 pm

I don't use the post office anyhow.

UPS costs more but its not run by the gov't the gov't gets too much of my stinkin money as it is.
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Re: Post Office parking lot?

Postby pleasantguywhopacks » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:37 pm

Imcrazy wrote:I don't use the post office anyhow.

UPS costs more but its not run by the gov't the gov't gets too much of my stinkin money as it is.

Uhmm UPS posts so the OP gains nothing by going there.
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Re: Post Office parking lot?

Postby usmc5831 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:50 pm

WOW! :oops: I have done screwed that law up then. I had no clue you could not possess in your vehicle either. I WAS locking in the trunk and re-arming when I came back out. Guess I will stop that bad habit now :evil:
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Re: Post Office parking lot?

Postby pleasantguywhopacks » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:56 pm

Changes nothing on how I conduct my USPS buisness. I'll leave it at that.
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Re: Post Office parking lot?

Postby BobK » Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:13 pm

(p) Penalties and other law. (1) Alleged violations of these rules and regulations are heard, and the penalties prescribed herein are imposed, either in a Federal district court or by a Federal magistrate in accordance with applicable court rules. Questions regarding such rules should be directed to the regional counsel for the region involved.

(2) Whoever shall be found guilty of violating the rules and regulations in this section while on property under the charge and control of the Postal Service is subject to fine of not more than $50 or imprisonment of not more than 30 days, or both. Nothing contained in these rules and regulations shall be construed to abrogate any other Federal laws or regulations of any State and local laws and regulations applicable to any area in which the property is situated.


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Re: Post Office parking lot?

Postby Imcrazy » Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:21 pm

pleasantguywhopacks wrote:
Imcrazy wrote:I don't use the post office anyhow.

UPS costs more but its not run by the gov't the gov't gets too much of my stinkin money as it is.

Uhmm UPS posts so the OP gains nothing by going there.


Hrm none of the UPS stores around me do.
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Re: Post Office parking lot?

Postby usmc5831 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:38 pm

pleasantguywhopacks wrote:Changes nothing on how I conduct my USPS buisness. I'll leave it at that.


Point noted.
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Re: Post Office parking lot?

Postby pleasantguywhopacks » Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:55 pm

Imcrazy wrote:
pleasantguywhopacks wrote:
Imcrazy wrote:I don't use the post office anyhow.

UPS costs more but its not run by the gov't the gov't gets too much of my stinkin money as it is.

Uhmm UPS posts so the OP gains nothing by going there.


Hrm none of the UPS stores around me do.

Try shipping a handgun and you will have to use a UPS service center, they are posted. I suspect the stores are as well but I have no first hand knowledge as I live close to a service center than is most definitely posted in multiple places.
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Re: Post Office parking lot?

Postby Ed_S » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:49 pm

pleasantguywhopacks wrote:Changes nothing on how I conduct my USPS buisness. I'll leave it at that.


My thought and feeling exactly.
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Re: Post Office parking lot?

Postby FormerNavy » Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:09 pm

Imcrazy wrote:
pleasantguywhopacks wrote:
Imcrazy wrote:I don't use the post office anyhow.

UPS costs more but its not run by the gov't the gov't gets too much of my stinkin money as it is.

Uhmm UPS posts so the OP gains nothing by going there.


Hrm none of the UPS stores around me do.


The UPS Store in Fairfield is not posted either.
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Re: Post Office parking lot?

Postby docpadds » Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:22 pm

Well then not only have i been bad having guns in the parking lot, I've had them in the building too, sometimes 4 or 5 at a time....

Of course as an FL we are allows to ship via USPS but technically we arent allowed carry the package with the gun into the office.... bizarre laws.
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Re: Post Office parking lot?

Postby willbird » Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:06 am

If you read the law you will see that the offense is equal to spitting in the PO, and the penalty is the same too.
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Re: Post Office parking lot?

Postby sog711 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:23 am

The UPS store is different from from the customer center. Every Customer center I've been by is posted. UPS store is a franchise offshoot of Mailboxes etc. which ups owns so they must leave the decision to the franchise owner or manager of the location.
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Re: Post Office parking lot?

Postby carmen fovozzo » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:54 am

No wonder the PO is in trouble, with stupid things like this. Maybe someone should send a DNPWA letter to Post Master General and tell them we will do our best to ship ALL our packages by UPS or Fed-X. See how they like that for a decrease in there over priced mailing.
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