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Travel Frequently Asked Questions

Postby rickt » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:48 am

This forum has seen three threads in the month of February regarding travel to Minnesota, Maryland and Indiana.

That prompted me to create this FAQ.

Rick's Unofficial Travel FAQ

Q.: I am traveling to another state and I am wondering if my Ohio CHl is valid there?

A.: There are two good web sites which have interactive maps which can show you in which states your Ohio CHL is valid. Those sites are Handgunlaws and USA Carry.

Q.: What is the difference between "honors" and "reciprocity"?

A.: "Reciprocity" means Ohio and another state have signed an agreement to honor each other's CCW permits (Ohio AG reciprocity page). Some states have decided to honor other states licenses without any reciprocity agreement which is why your Ohio CHL is valid in more states than those with which Ohio has a reciprocity agreement.

Q.: While I am in another state, do I follow Ohio's laws or the laws of the state I am visiting?

A.: Always obey the laws of the state you are visiting.

Q.: How can I find out the laws of any state I plan to visit?

A.: Several web sites provide synopses of state firearms laws which you can review and print out for your travels to other states. They are http://www.handgunlaw.us/, http://www.usacarry.com/index.php, and http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/.

Q:. Can I travel with a firearm on an airplane?

A.: Yes, but you must follow the TSA guidelines shown here: TSA guidelines.
In addition, the TSA recommends checking with the airline for additional policies the airline might have about traveling with a firearm. Since not all airline personnel understand firearms policies, printing and carrying both the airline's policy and the TSA policy is a good idea.

Q:. Can I travel with a firearm on Amtrak?

A.: No. Amtrak policy forbids firearms in both checked and carry-on baggage.

Q.: Can I travel with a firearm on a Greyhound bus?

A.: No. Greyhound's list of prohibited items includes firearms.

Q.: Isn't there a Federal law that is supposed to protect travelers with firearms?

A.: Yes. The Firearm Owners Protection Act (FOPA) offers some protection. The NRA Gun Laws web site describes it like this: "Notwithstanding any state or local law, a person shall be entitled to transport a firearm from any place where he may lawfully possess and transport such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and transport such firearm if the firearm is unloaded and in the trunk. In vehicles without a trunk, the unloaded firearm shall be in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console."
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Re: Travel Frequently Asked Questions

Postby sodbuster95 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:54 am

Very nice. This should get "sticky-ed".

I didn't know Amtrack and Greyhound prohibited even in checked bags. That's lame.
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Re: Travel Frequently Asked Questions

Postby GlockLovingEngineer » Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:48 pm

sodbuster95 wrote:Very nice. This should get "sticky-ed".

I didn't know Amtrack and Greyhound prohibited even in checked bags. That's lame.


Agreed on all points...
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Re: Travel Frequently Asked Questions

Postby Vikefantam » Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:20 am

rickt wrote:This forum has seen three threads in the month of February regarding travel to Minnesota, Maryland and Indiana.

That prompted me to create this FAQ.

Rick's Unofficial Travel FAQ

Q.: I am traveling to another state and I am wondering if my Ohio CHl is valid there?

A.: There are two good web sites which have interactive maps which can show you in which states your Ohio CHL is valid. Those sites are Handgunlaws and USA Carry.

Q.: What is the difference between "honors" and "reciprocity"?

A.: "Reciprocity" means Ohio and another state have signed an agreement to honor each other's CCW permits (Ohio AG reciprocity page). Some states have decided to honor other states licenses without any reciprocity agreement which is why your Ohio CHL is valid in more states than those with which Ohio has a reciprocity agreement.

Q.: While I am in another state, do I follow Ohio's laws or the laws of the state I am visiting?

A.: Always obey the laws of the state you are visiting.

Q.: How can I find out the laws of any state I plan to visit?

A.: Several web sites provide synopses of state firearms laws which you can review and print out for your travels to other states. They are http://www.handgunlaw.us/, http://www.usacarry.com/index.php, and http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/.

Q:. Can I travel with a firearm on an airplane?

A.: Yes, but you must follow the TSA guidelines shown here: TSA guidelines.
In addition, the TSA recommends checking with the airline for additional policies the airline might have about traveling with a firearm. Since not all airline personnel understand firearms policies, printing and carrying both the airline's policy and the TSA policy is a good idea.

Q:. Can I travel with a firearm on Amtrak?

A.: No. Amtrak policy forbids firearms in both checked and carry-on baggage.

Q.: Can I travel with a firearm on a Greyhound bus?

A.: No. Greyhound's list of prohibited items includes firearms.

Q.: Isn't there a Federal law that is supposed to protect travelers with firearms?

A.: Yes. The Firearm Owners Protection Act (FOPA) offers some protection. The NRA Gun Laws web site describes it like this: "Notwithstanding any state or local law, a person shall be entitled to transport a firearm from any place where he may lawfully possess and transport such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and transport such firearm if the firearm is unloaded and in the trunk. In vehicles without a trunk, the unloaded firearm shall be in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console."


I will tell you one thing - Minnesota is VERY liberal. Lord knows that during the offseason, me being one of the few republicans in there, I get into my share of fights. No way in hell do you conceal carry in that state. Check their laws (gun in trunk, ammo in glove compartment or something like that).
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Re: Travel Frequently Asked Questions

Postby jabeatty » Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:34 am

Vikefantam wrote:I will tell you one thing - Minnesota is VERY liberal. Lord knows that during the offseason, me being one of the few republicans in there, I get into my share of fights. No way in hell do you conceal carry in that state. Check their laws (gun in trunk, ammo in glove compartment or something like that).

Minnesota honors your Ohio license; the form of carry you mentioned is for individuals without a license.
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Re: Travel Frequently Asked Questions

Postby sargent51 » Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:51 am

Q.: What is the difference between "honors" and "reciprocity"?

A.: "Reciprocity" means Ohio and another state have signed an agreement to honor each other's CCW permits (Ohio AG reciprocity page). Some states have decided to honor other states licenses without any reciprocity agreement which is why your Ohio CHL is valid in more states than those with which Ohio has a reciprocity agreement.


So...I am still not understanding the difference. Can someone explain the difference between reciprocity and honor?

Thanks...
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Re: Travel Frequently Asked Questions

Postby sodbuster95 » Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:57 am

sargent51 wrote:
Q.: What is the difference between "honors" and "reciprocity"?

A.: "Reciprocity" means Ohio and another state have signed an agreement to honor each other's CCW permits (Ohio AG reciprocity page). Some states have decided to honor other states licenses without any reciprocity agreement which is why your Ohio CHL is valid in more states than those with which Ohio has a reciprocity agreement.


So...I am still not understanding the difference. Can someone explain the difference between reciprocity and honor?

Thanks...


In a nutshell, reciprocity means that each state will accept the other state's license through a formal agreement. Conversely, a state that honors a license does so on it's own without the tit-for-tat agreement.

I.E., Ohio has no reciprocity agreement with Vermont, but Vermont "honors" my Ohio CHL (not that you need one in Vermont, but that's beside the point).
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Re: Travel Frequently Asked Questions

Postby Rhino » Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:33 pm

I got another question, and excuse me if it's been answered before. If I put my handgun into a lockbox prior to entering a CPZ, does the handgun have to be unloaded? Technically it is not being 'transported' while the truck is in a parking lot.
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Re: Travel Frequently Asked Questions

Postby juanvaldez » Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:40 pm

I do not have your answer but I do have another question. I know many states honor my license but some do not. Is there a list of states that covers the majority?

Example
I have Ohio. What other states should I apply for that would cover the largest percentage of the US?
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Re: Travel Frequently Asked Questions

Postby Rhino » Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:43 am

http://www.handgunlaw.us/

I don't think they do a compilation of multiple states, but they do list where each license is honored.
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Re: Travel Frequently Asked Questions

Postby Bigdaddy » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:11 pm

While on this subject ....

www.handgunlaws.us used to have a section called "nationwide off limits" it gave you a list state by state of places that were off limits even with a license/permit that did not have to be posted I.E. in Ohio daycare centers or places that serve alcohol to be consumed on site.

I can not find this link any longer, does anyone no of something similar?

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Re: Travel Frequently Asked Questions

Postby tmcblane » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:28 pm

juanvaldez wrote:I do not have your answer but I do have another question. I know many states honor my license but some do not. Is there a list of states that covers the majority?

Example
I have Ohio. What other states should I apply for that would cover the largest percentage of the US?
Apply for a Florida license, it can all be done thru the mail. $117. Between Florida and Ohio you are covered in 36 states I believe it is.

You can apply for a utah license but there is this paragraph in their literature:

WEAPON FAMILIARITY CERTIFICATION:
Applicants must complete a firearms familiarity course
certified by the Bureau. The course must be completed
before you apply for a permit. Please have your instructor
complete the certification information on the application.
Holders of a valid Concealed Firearm Permit from another
state other than Utah are not exempt from taking the weapon
familiarity course from an approved Utah instructor.
BCI
must receive your application within one year of course
completion.

Note the Key words there "from an approved Utah Instructor"

How strictly they enforce that I have no idea, perhaps someone who has a Utah non resident license can verify
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Re: Travel Frequently Asked Questions

Postby tmcblane » Thu Apr 02, 2009 3:33 pm

Rhino wrote:I got another question, and excuse me if it's been answered before. If I put my handgun into a lockbox prior to entering a CPZ, does the handgun have to be unloaded? Technically it is not being 'transported' while the truck is in a parking lot.
Hmmmm, that is a good question! One thing for sure, if you are somewhere and your wife or girlfiend or anybody else unlicensed to carry is in the car. DO NOT leave the loaded gun in the car with them locked up or not unless you put it in the trunk. Best bet is unload the mag or cylinder, put the bullets in your pocket and lock the gun then in the car or appropriate container to satisfy the law. Then neither of you are breaking any law.
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Re: Travel Frequently Asked Questions

Postby dclaarjr » Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:21 pm

Here is a spreadsheet I made to use as a quick guide while traveling. I have a color code so you know what is legal (green), has gray areas (yellow), and is illegal (red). Please note, just because an activity is legal while armed, it may not be legal if you do not have a CHL recognized in that state. This is currently set up to match the CHLs I hold, Ohio, and PA. You can change it to match the CHLs you have.

If you find that I made any errors, please post it so I can make corrections.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/gmddywmq3ef/Reciprocity%20and%20laws.xls
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Re: Travel Frequently Asked Questions

Postby buckeye43210 » Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:24 am

tmcblane wrote:
juanvaldez wrote:Note the Key words there "from an approved Utah Instructor"

How strictly they enforce that I have no idea, perhaps someone who has a Utah non resident license can verify


We have some apporved Utah Intructors residing in Ohio...
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