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Re: New Ohio Iaws

Postby djthomas » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:37 pm

JustaShooter wrote:Since the law specifies the locked container must be "within or on" the vehicle, I believe that requires a separate locked container.

Just to show how little thought goes into these laws... It would be perfectly acceptable to drive onto company property with a pistol rolling around in a clear $5 tackle box with a $1.99 lock in the back of your pickup truck out in the open for anyone to see and take. And yet, it would not be OK to put the gun in that same box (but without the lock) inside your vehicle, buried under a pile of blankets with the vehicle door locked.
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Re: New Ohio Iaws

Postby JonasM » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:57 pm

For the record - I tried this law out today! :)

We had a morning meeting at school, and before and after I had errands to run.

Disarmed, locked the firearm away inside the locked car, did our business, reverse the process before leaving for the errands.

Not perfect, but progress. :)
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Re: New Ohio Iaws

Postby junglebob » Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:11 pm

djthomas wrote:The sad thing is I'm not convinced that I'm 100% correct. Equally sad is that even Illinois has adopted a single procedure for stora firearm in a personal vehicle regardless of the type of premises. It is a bit weird if you want to exit your vehicle to put it in the trunk but at least it is uniform.


djthomas, Thanks for saying something nice about Illinios. In Illinois with a CCL you can store your loaded handgun in a locked vehicle or in a locked case, console or console, if you don't lock the vehicle. This would apply to Ohio folks with a CCL as well. I think the part about storing your handgun in the trunk only applies to Illinois folks, as they say out of staters can't step out of their vehicle with a loaded handgun. You are allowed to have it anywhere in the vehicle though.
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Re: New Ohio Iaws

Postby Dixon » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:17 pm

Question about this. If a school campus is posted (sign near entrance of parking lot declaring campus a drug and weapon free zone), does that supersede the new law or no?
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Re: New Ohio Iaws

Postby Brian D. » Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:00 pm

Dixon wrote:Question about this. If a school campus is posted (sign near entrance of parking lot declaring campus a drug and weapon free zone), does that supersede the new law or no?


No. Those signs should be discarded in favor of ones that are in compliance with the new law. But like other parts of the ORC dealing with firearms, there are not enforcement "teeth" to go after the schools with.

Just west of Vance's in Columbus, I recall seeing bullet holes in one of those signs a few years ago. Really effective huh?
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Re: New Ohio Iaws

Postby JustaShooter » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:57 pm

Brian D. wrote:
Dixon wrote:Question about this. If a school campus is posted (sign near entrance of parking lot declaring campus a drug and weapon free zone), does that supersede the new law or no?


No. Those signs should be discarded in favor of ones that are in compliance with the new law. But like other parts of the ORC dealing with firearms, there are not enforcement "teeth" to go after the schools with.

How would you change them to be in compliance? Current signage law still requires those signs to be placed where they are, with that wording. Also, all that had changed is you can have the gun locked in your vehicle - which, with more restrictions, was already the case.
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Re: New Ohio Iaws

Postby JediSkipdogg » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:23 pm

JustaShooter wrote:
Brian D. wrote:
Dixon wrote:Question about this. If a school campus is posted (sign near entrance of parking lot declaring campus a drug and weapon free zone), does that supersede the new law or no?


No. Those signs should be discarded in favor of ones that are in compliance with the new law. But like other parts of the ORC dealing with firearms, there are not enforcement "teeth" to go after the schools with.

How would you change them to be in compliance? Current signage law still requires those signs to be placed where they are, with that wording. Also, all that had changed is you can have the gun locked in your vehicle - which, with more restrictions, was already the case.


Also one has to remember most of the gun and drug free signs are from Federal law. Remember, GFSZA only has an exception for those with a CHL from the state the school is in. No CHL = sign applies.
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