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An acceptable sight picture
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Re: An acceptable sight picture
Well done, concisely explained.
In my days of many competitions, you could figure out a real good break down of just how much precision was required for each kind of match. (I'm talking speed games here not pure accuracy events.)
IPSC/IDPA you can get by with a pretty sloppy sight picture. By contrast, even though the distance was only 25 feet, driving bowling pins off the table required more precision than you'd expect. Pins had to be in a "sweet spot" the size of a 12 ounce soda can or they wouldn't leave the table, just topple over and spin.
In my days of many competitions, you could figure out a real good break down of just how much precision was required for each kind of match. (I'm talking speed games here not pure accuracy events.)
IPSC/IDPA you can get by with a pretty sloppy sight picture. By contrast, even though the distance was only 25 feet, driving bowling pins off the table required more precision than you'd expect. Pins had to be in a "sweet spot" the size of a 12 ounce soda can or they wouldn't leave the table, just topple over and spin.
Quit worrying, hide your gun well, shut up, and CARRY that handgun!
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Re: An acceptable sight picture
"You said focus on the front sight, but didn't say anything about the rear."
Eureka!
I think that FINALLY allows me to understand what Frank Proctor (he's in town today and tomorrow teaching handgun and carbine, respectively...sadly, today's Anna's first day of school ) is saying, when he speaks about "seeing!"
A while back, I read this article by Claude Werner -
https://tacticalprofessor.wordpress.com ... /06/89081/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
^ And understood it to mean that the BSA template is not an absolute - that the amount of deviation of the sights (assuming that the trigger path is a constant [yeah, easier said than done! ]) should be understood to be a continuum of acceptability based on demands of the target.
Even so, I did not understand that this is what is meant by "seeing" the sights. That not only is the front sight important: so is the rear. I have to "see" the entire picture. Yes, I can choose to focus on a certain aspect of the entire scene, but I need to see the entire scene.
You've got a real talent for explaining things so that it's concrete enough for even a thick-skulled guy like me can understand. Thank you!
I've got a sneaky feeling that this will come in really handy on Saturday's "Moving/Mover's" handgun clinic.
[ Seriously, guys and gals, Andrew is incredibly articulate and a gifted teacher: I honestly recommend that those of you to get out to one of his classes - https://apexshooting.mycustomevent.com/ ... gCart.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - this clinic for experienced handgunners is coming up on Saturday, it'll be well worth the price and the drive out to the range. ]
Eureka!
I think that FINALLY allows me to understand what Frank Proctor (he's in town today and tomorrow teaching handgun and carbine, respectively...sadly, today's Anna's first day of school ) is saying, when he speaks about "seeing!"
A while back, I read this article by Claude Werner -
https://tacticalprofessor.wordpress.com ... /06/89081/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
^ And understood it to mean that the BSA template is not an absolute - that the amount of deviation of the sights (assuming that the trigger path is a constant [yeah, easier said than done! ]) should be understood to be a continuum of acceptability based on demands of the target.
Even so, I did not understand that this is what is meant by "seeing" the sights. That not only is the front sight important: so is the rear. I have to "see" the entire picture. Yes, I can choose to focus on a certain aspect of the entire scene, but I need to see the entire scene.
You've got a real talent for explaining things so that it's concrete enough for even a thick-skulled guy like me can understand. Thank you!
I've got a sneaky feeling that this will come in really handy on Saturday's "Moving/Mover's" handgun clinic.
[ Seriously, guys and gals, Andrew is incredibly articulate and a gifted teacher: I honestly recommend that those of you to get out to one of his classes - https://apexshooting.mycustomevent.com/ ... gCart.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - this clinic for experienced handgunners is coming up on Saturday, it'll be well worth the price and the drive out to the range. ]
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Re: An acceptable sight picture
My earlier post should have stated that "Pins had to be HIT in a sweet spot the size of a 12 ounce soda can."
Quit worrying, hide your gun well, shut up, and CARRY that handgun!
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Re: An acceptable sight picture
^ Man! I read so fast that upon reading your follow-up, I couldn't believe that the word "hit" had not been a part of the original!
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Re: An acceptable sight picture
Me too. Easier to notice those little screw ups on a real computer versus this phone I type on some now.
Quit worrying, hide your gun well, shut up, and CARRY that handgun!
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Re: An acceptable sight picture
Holy cow was this ever demonstrated in realtime with today's Moving/Movers clinic
Too many years of "hard front sight," it seems, has made it so that I embarrassingly focus a bit too much on the front sight (well, except for those times when I'm just not looking at them at all ). It took me about half the ride home to really internalize the feedback Andrew offered, and in looking back mentally at what my mind's eye remembers of the sight package, when that's superimposed on the shots printed on the target, I now understand that need to "see."
Too many years of "hard front sight," it seems, has made it so that I embarrassingly focus a bit too much on the front sight (well, except for those times when I'm just not looking at them at all ). It took me about half the ride home to really internalize the feedback Andrew offered, and in looking back mentally at what my mind's eye remembers of the sight package, when that's superimposed on the shots printed on the target, I now understand that need to "see."
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Re: An acceptable sight picture
Allen, That is great to hear!TSiWRX wrote:Holy cow was this ever demonstrated in realtime with today's Moving/Movers clinic
Too many years of "hard front sight," it seems, has made it so that I embarrassingly focus a bit too much on the front sight (well, except for those times when I'm just not looking at them at all ). It took me about half the ride home to really internalize the feedback Andrew offered, and in looking back mentally at what my mind's eye remembers of the sight package, when that's superimposed on the shots printed on the target, I now understand that need to "see."
-Andrew
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