For handgun I stress proper grip, sights and trigger. Here is a video during a recent training of me explaining and showing the importance of proper grip. Proper grip will allow you to manage recoil and obtain a faster follow up shot.
http://youtu.be/4coi1rb4zCU
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Re: Video concerning grip
Andrew, would you mind me picking your brain for a little?
In the last two, with the "almost" grip at approx. 1:50 to 2:00, your elbows and shoulders also seem to be lower than the final iteration, between 2:20 and 2:30.
What's your take on the rest of your upper body?
-Are you running with your elbows locked? or are they slightly bent?
-Are your elbows pointing slightly down, or are your arms each rolled inboard so that they point "out" instead?
-How high are your shoulders up?
-Do you use any muscle tension with your chest?
Couldn't quite see any of these in-play via the video, and just wanted to see what your take on it was.
Nice shot, BTW! Gun/sights/caliber? Distance ? Size of the steel?
In the last two, with the "almost" grip at approx. 1:50 to 2:00, your elbows and shoulders also seem to be lower than the final iteration, between 2:20 and 2:30.
What's your take on the rest of your upper body?
-Are you running with your elbows locked? or are they slightly bent?
-Are your elbows pointing slightly down, or are your arms each rolled inboard so that they point "out" instead?
-How high are your shoulders up?
-Do you use any muscle tension with your chest?
Couldn't quite see any of these in-play via the video, and just wanted to see what your take on it was.
Nice shot, BTW! Gun/sights/caliber? Distance ? Size of the steel?
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Re: Video concerning grip
Allen,
I push the handgun completely out in front of me. I don't like telling people to lock the elbows but it does work for some. What I strive for is consistency. If your elbows have a small degree of bend in them you are relying on the muscles too much and muscles fatigue resulting in the arm position changing through out training. I compare it to a push up. You push up so your arms are fully extended but if you truly lock out your elbows you would find several reps to become painful. With a proper grip a right handed shooter will lock the left wrist. Locking the left wrist will change your elbows. In the second to last grip the left wrist is not locked, that is why the elbows are different.
As far as shoulders go. This is one of my bad habits. My shoulders raise slightly and I drop my head a bit too low. This is extra movement that slows me down but it is so natural for me I don't even notice it until someone brings it up or I see a picture or video of myself shooting. When I teach handgun, I like for students to bring the handgun up to their line of sight and avoid dropping their head to the sights. It is a matter of efficiency which equates to speed.
There is very little muscle tension in my chest.
The gun is an out of the box S&W M&P9 shooting winchester 124gr ball, standard nite sights. Distance was about 100 yards, target was a 40% IPSC (8"x12")
I push the handgun completely out in front of me. I don't like telling people to lock the elbows but it does work for some. What I strive for is consistency. If your elbows have a small degree of bend in them you are relying on the muscles too much and muscles fatigue resulting in the arm position changing through out training. I compare it to a push up. You push up so your arms are fully extended but if you truly lock out your elbows you would find several reps to become painful. With a proper grip a right handed shooter will lock the left wrist. Locking the left wrist will change your elbows. In the second to last grip the left wrist is not locked, that is why the elbows are different.
As far as shoulders go. This is one of my bad habits. My shoulders raise slightly and I drop my head a bit too low. This is extra movement that slows me down but it is so natural for me I don't even notice it until someone brings it up or I see a picture or video of myself shooting. When I teach handgun, I like for students to bring the handgun up to their line of sight and avoid dropping their head to the sights. It is a matter of efficiency which equates to speed.
There is very little muscle tension in my chest.
The gun is an out of the box S&W M&P9 shooting winchester 124gr ball, standard nite sights. Distance was about 100 yards, target was a 40% IPSC (8"x12")
-Andrew
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Re: Video concerning grip
Thanks for the details!
And yep, NICE shooting!
And yep, NICE shooting!
Allen - Shaker Heights, Ohio
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Re: Video concerning grip
Caleb Giddings refers to that as the tactical turtle.
http://www.gunnuts.net/2013/07/02/curin ... al-turtle/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I know I tend to instinctively assume a weaver stance but when I attempt to use an isosceles stance I end up bunching my shoulders up as well. An area that definitely needs work for me.
http://www.gunnuts.net/2013/07/02/curin ... al-turtle/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I know I tend to instinctively assume a weaver stance but when I attempt to use an isosceles stance I end up bunching my shoulders up as well. An area that definitely needs work for me.
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Re: Video concerning grip
Those who have a striking or fighting background tend to tuck the chin.
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Re: Video concerning grip
"Ending on a good note".